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Implement Alley Discussion Forum

Need Help Setting My IH Endgate Seeder

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Iowaboi

03-06-2007 17:39:03
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I'm going to seed in some alfalfa this spring. I'm putting on 14lbs of alfalfa with 1 1/2 bushel of oats per acre. I'm not sure how open to have the slides or if ground speed is of any concern. Any help at all would be appericiated, I've never seeded with a endgate seeder before.




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johns48jdb

03-07-2007 15:42:00
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 Re: Need Help Setting My IH Endgate Seeder in reply to Iowaboi, 03-06-2007 17:39:03  
an end gate seeder replaces the tail gate on a wagon, which when first used was pulled by mules. the seeder is driven from a cog clamped on to the wheel of the wagon. there is a clutch on the seeder that takes it out of gear when turning or going from field to field. jd seeders had a second seed hopper that fit on top of the slinger mechanism that was used for small seed such as clover. if you had a good team you could just get them going and stand in the back of the wagon and scoop seed out of the wagon bed over into the hopper of the seeder or dump bags of seed over into the hopper and never have to stop to refill the hopper.

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wayne from wi

03-06-2007 19:22:50
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 Re: Need Help Setting My IH Endgate Seeder in reply to Iowaboi, 03-06-2007 17:39:03  

Alfalfa is an expensive seed to learn to calibrate with. Also if you want to seed oats at the same pass you will not get a good stand as the different density, seed size and amount of seed per pound will not spread equally. Travel speed of the tractor is important, as well as PTO speed that determines width of seed pattern, soil prep, how many acres you want to do, and how good of a stand you hope to achieve. If a small acreage, or just for fun, and not worrying too much about cost and results, you can put a measured amount of seed in the seeder and close the gate WAY DOWN and experiment.There is 43,560 sq. ft. in an acre. See how far your measured amount of seed goes, at how wide of a pattern at an EXACT RPM and GROUND SPEED. Measure the width of the pattern, times the length of the pattern and get the square feet. Figure the quantity of seed used and adjust from there to get your desired rate. Record every detail. You may want to put the oats on with a seperate pass. You may even want to put half rate on with 2 passes on alfalfa to get a better stand. Depending on how detailed you want to be, there are more things to consider. At the price of alfalfa seed, most people use a ground driven seeder. Email is open. Wayne

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IaGary

03-07-2007 03:29:33
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 Re: Need Help Setting My IH Endgate Seeder in reply to wayne from wi, 03-06-2007 19:22:50  
Most all endgate seeders are ground driven.

There is a chain from the rear wheel up to the seeder.

Your grass seed(orchard and Brome)are where you run into spread pattern problems.

Oats and alfalfa should spread about the same width from an endgate seeder.

Gary



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wayne from wi

03-07-2007 06:57:56
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 Re: Need Help Setting My IH Endgate Seeder in reply to IaGary, 03-07-2007 03:29:33  

I assumed an endgate seeder is same as a 3 point seeder. Maybe I answered a question that was not asked. Wayne



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Leroy

03-07-2007 18:04:29
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 Re: Need Help Setting My IH Endgate Seeder in reply to wayne from wi, 03-07-2007 06:57:56  
entirely different, 2 seed hoppers and ground driven and as long as speed remains constant the width spread patern will stay the same and speed is not a concerne unless you are trying to go too fast



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