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Implement Alley Discussion Forum

Best small square balers

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viking (southern PA)

10-20-2006 13:33:38
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I'm open to advice on finding a good, cheap small square baler. I ride a MF-135 diesel no remote hydraulics. Plan on leaving bales on ground for now until I can use a bigger tractor for hitching a wagon. Got about 15-acres of Orchard grass - some hills.I use a Ford 515 sickle to mow, but my buddy and his baler are now gone. How's about JD 14T or 24T or NH?? what's a good model choice?




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hay master

10-26-2006 11:38:56
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 Re: Best small square balers in reply to viking (southern PA), 10-20-2006 13:33:38  
I like the NH balers as the parts and service are good. Currently use a NH 315 small square baler. Bought it from NH dealer on a trade. He had to put a plunger arm & knives on it and with a few minor adjustments in the field I put up over 1000 bales this summer. I had a JD 14T that I wish I never parted with. Should have kept it around just because. I must tell you I run it with a JD 4020 Diesel and don't power up the PTO much above 1600 rpm as the NH baler feeder tracks will blow up. I made that mistake on a NH 269 and the dealer wanted more than it was worth to repair.

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tmay

10-23-2006 15:53:23
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 Re: Best small square balers in reply to viking (southern PA), 10-20-2006 13:33:38  
I have a Massey 135 3 cly gas and pull a 273 NH baler without any trouble. I have pulled a wagon behind it and it will be ok as long as ground is not to steep and not loaded to heavy. Good luck
Tim



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BillyinStoughton

10-23-2006 10:00:38
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 Re: Best small square balers in reply to viking (southern PA), 10-20-2006 13:33:38  
A 14-T baler in good shape is a nice machine that won't brake the bank, and parts availability is not an issue either. As some have pointed out, it is definitely an older baler, but if you can find one that has been shedded for it's life...it can be a h*lluva baler for the money. I run a 14T with my Farmall H and am very happy with the bales it makes. It hasn't missed a tie in years and the little bugger and it's reliability has really kind of grown on me!

Here's a sample of some of those nice square, stackable, 14-T bales.

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Teddy (punchie)

10-22-2006 20:15:23
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 Re: Best small square balers in reply to viking (southern PA), 10-20-2006 13:33:38  
I just passed on a nice looking 14T baler, looks to be in fair condition and in working condition. Teddy

E-mail me if interested, Beaver PA



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Gerald J.

10-21-2006 20:49:08
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 Re: Best small square balers in reply to viking (southern PA), 10-20-2006 13:33:38  
The 14t and 24T are really old these days. Some are rusted into lumps, some are worn out. My Mf-12 wasn't absolutely perfect but I baled thousands of bales each year with it.

I'd say the best small square baler is one that is close to you and that needs no parts or adjustments before baling. Its better if there is good dealer support close by, with both parts and good mechanics for finessing the knotters.

Nearly all the square balers did the job they were intended to do, without a great deal of variation in bale quality or reliability of operation.

A newer than the MF-12 and JD 14T and 24T ought to be less worn and have better parts availability and so be a better "best" baler in the long run than one of the older vintage.

Back in the 80's before I bought the MF-12 or the hay field, I asked at a Deere dealer about the power required to run a 14T. The old guy at the counter said that was the wrong question. That the 8N I had at the time was powerful enough to run the baler and that a lot more tractor could be harder on the baler. I know the MF-135 ran my MF-12 with loaded rack decently.

Gerald J.

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buickanddeere

10-21-2006 07:54:23
209.240.120.192



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 Re: Best small square balers in reply to viking (southern PA), 10-20-2006 13:33:38  
Any well adjusted Deere small square baler is noted for square firm stackable bales.



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Kelly campbell

10-21-2006 07:00:21
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 Re: Best small square balers in reply to viking (southern PA), 10-20-2006 13:33:38  
You could run a Massey 120 or 128 with out any problem



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vally farm

10-20-2006 19:26:15
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 Re: Best small square balers in reply to viking (southern PA), 10-20-2006 13:33:38  
I run a NH 273 with a kicker pulling 16 foot wagons with a Super H. Have to go slow up the hills with a wagon over 2/3 full, so I think a MF 135 should be able to pull the same quite easily. Love the NH bailers...they are the only thing anyone near me uses. Mike



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jmm

10-20-2006 17:55:48
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 Re: Best small square balers in reply to viking (southern PA), 10-20-2006 13:33:38  
I have a smaller tractor and was confronted with some of the same issues. Borrowed a new holland for a while and found a super good used international 435. It bales as hard and fast as you want to go and has never missed a bale with me. It seems like the auger feed system makes far better bales than the other feeding systems.



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Jim in NC

10-21-2006 03:53:29
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 Re: Best small square balers in reply to jmm, 10-20-2006 17:55:48  
Just wondering if you have needed any parts for your baler and if they have been hard to find. I have a 435 and have been told it was about impossible to get parts for it. For the most part, mine has been good. It does have one thing that needs attention. I would like to keep using it because of sentimental reasons. I just bought a NH 270 this week for a backup. It may be sold next spring if I can find out more about the 435. Thanks

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kyhayman

10-20-2006 16:42:23
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 Re: Best small square balers in reply to viking (southern PA), 10-20-2006 13:33:38  
I wouldnt worry about using a 135 massey to pull any small square baler made and a wagon load of hay on any hills that you could get a load to stay on the wagon.

As to balers...... any decently well kept NH or JD would do a fine job. Main thing is look for rust, and wear/slop between fitted moving parts, esp the knotters. 14t or 24 t are fine, 336 is a lot more baler for not much more money (at least here).

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Gerald J.

10-20-2006 16:38:11
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 Re: Best small square balers in reply to viking (southern PA), 10-20-2006 13:33:38  
I used to make small squares with a MF-12 behind my MF-135. Nearly always I pulled a rack with one or two helpers stacking on the rack. The most they ever put on the rack was 165 bales. I used the chutes on the back of the baler to lift bales up to the rack. On more than one occasion I baled 100 bales to the load by myself, stacking every 5 or bales, running the tractor the rest of the time.

I never ran out of tractor power, though sometimes in mud I ran out of traction.

Gerald J.

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Jossette

10-20-2006 15:04:35
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 Re: Best small square balers in reply to viking (southern PA), 10-20-2006 13:33:38  
both are really good. take your pick... I run a MF #10 baler and we do OK...



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