New Holland 1400 Claas 106

Fordfarmer · Feb 6, 2021

After running my NH 1400 for 17 seasons (and a NH 985 before that), I'm taking a small step newer and a large step bigger to a Claas 106. The Claas has been paid for, trucking has been arranged (thanks to YT's hauling schedule), and as of today, the 1400 is sold. Just need to find a 6row narrow head.(Have one lead)
Neither combine is going to move until it warms up some, though.
Pictures to follow!

Case Nutty 1660 · Feb 8, 2021

Sounds like you got some great years from the 985 and 1400, we sold two 1400's new in 1976 and one long on order TR-70,, I hope your 106 will be as good for you,, are you still using the Innes pickup I think you got from me? I think I still have three of them left if you wore it out by now,, You got me to thinking, I bought my first Case 1660 in 1997,, so this season will be twenty-three years on it alone,, she runs as good or better today than when I bought it but does a lot less acres, in 1998 I ran four machines all Real CASE and none of the puke red ones they sell today,, two 960's, a 1000 and the 1660,, I cut 1200 acres of wheat and another 250 or better alfalfa seed that year. Good times for sure but I enjoy harvest even more since I am a one man show since 2000. Look forward to the pics of your new addition
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Hour meter on the 1660 at start of 2020 harvest

Two of what I use these days,, I have machines setup for a number of crops, here I was picking up a wheat/barley mixture for bird feed, it was supposed to be just wheat but someone had stacked barley with spring wheat seed, I already had some in the drills before I seen it,, had to swath it so it would dry evenly

Between the drought and hopers it was a wonder I had any crops at all,, but was Thankful for what I was able to harvest due to being hailed out 100% in 2018 and 2019

Running winter forage wheat here, the drought made the crops pull from the straw to fill the heads, made it very brittle on the upper half of it,

4520BW · Feb 8, 2021

never could figure out how a combine can thresh wheat but a grasshopper can go thru and live. Those hoppers make good fishing bait!

Case Nutty 1660 · Feb 8, 2021

Amazing they make it at all for sure,,

These are from 2019, they moved in after the third bad hail storm went through,, I was getting 10 BPA of hoppers and 2 BPA of grain at best,, I had never seen them so bad in grain before, thankfully there was not enough to even pay for the gas I was burning so i quit,, what I did have in a bin and then bagged turned rancid from hoppers,, I ended up throwing it out anyway, sure glad I did not put any in my bins, the pics are of some wheat I salvaged for a friend for feeding his chickens/geese and turkeys, he said they ate the hoppers first then the grain so that half a bin of product was not a total loss,, I did manage to get my seed input back lol

Tech 7 · Feb 8, 2021

I like the Dodge!

Chris in SK · Feb 8, 2021

The 106 is a good combine, hopefully you have good luck with it. I have an MF 8460, basically a red Claas 108. Do you have a local Claas dealer for parts? I don't bother with AGCO and go direct to Claas for any parts I need. I haven't needed to many but my local Claas dealer is good, and so far anything I've needed they got the next day. I also run a 1680 Case and often have to wait longer for parts for that!
Which engine does your 106 have? There is not a lot of room in the engine bay, so keep the rad clean and wash out under the engine regularly. Engine access looks bad, but it isn't really. For anything you can't reach from the top there is an access panel in the grain tank, and also they are set up so the cab will roll forward.
Make sure the blockage switch above the end of the straw walkers is working. They are not a lot of fun if you plug the walkers!

lugnuts2030 · Feb 8, 2021

Thats impressive to see those old Case combines still being used, not sure I've seen one of those other than in a picture. I thought I was using old combines I have been running MF 760 and 860"s.

Case Nutty 1660 · Feb 9, 2021

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thanks,, I have almost every SP model Case built,, other than a few of the first of them,, these days I only run one at a time as I prefer to do it that way,, used to have my Dad and uncle run one when I was cutting more acres,, Dad is gone and Uncle is 91 now,, I have been running Case combines since 1967,, I do have plenty of seat time in a 1974 MF 760, 24' hdr, Hydro and the V-8 Perkins,, a friend and custom cutter from OK cut our grain from 74 through 78 with them and I filled in for him on one for much of the cutting he had around us,, I thought they were decent enough machines,, we did have heating problems if you did not blow out the radiator at least once a day,, but other wise they were a pretty trouble free machine as long as you kept them greased well at the what 10 banks of zerks they had,,, just kidding I think there was 4 or 5 of them at most,, I know I used three tubes of greased every morning to grease both machines. the 960 dumping in the Grain-O-vator was the last Case combine we ordered in and sold new, I was lucky enough to get it bought back in 1989, my Uncle in teh seat and friend who I went to school with who was hauling grain for me that year standing by the grain wagon I was using to reach his tall grain trailer

Fordfarmer · Feb 9, 2021

Closest Claas dealer in about an hour and a half away... not exactly close, but kinda how things are getting for any brand.

Fordfarmer · Feb 9, 2021

I bought a Sund pickup from you... still working. I put new belts on it a couple years ago, but that's about the only repair it needed. It's going with the 1400.
I'd keep the 1400, if NH hadn't killed all parts availability for it. I've really had very little trouble with the combine itself... most of the repairs were on the heads. The Ford diesel is still in great shape. But the price on the 106, combined with the 1400 needing a variable speed pulley on the cleaning fan ("no longer serviced") made me decide to go for it. The extra capacity will be nice, too.

Case Nutty 1660 · Feb 9, 2021

Sorry I am brain dead yes a Sund,, glad to hear it will still see some possible use I understand on parts

Fordfarmer · Feb 9, 2021

We have grasshoppers here, but NOTHING like that!

Chris in SK · Feb 10, 2021

If you don't get a parts book with it, Claas does have an online parts manual so you can look up the parts diagrams... but I've never figured out how to see the part numbers. Maybe you have to register with them. If you hover over the diagram number it does tell you what each part is.
You can also probably look up on AGCO/MF parts site....I'm not sure if early MF 8460's were 106's.

Fordfarmer · Feb 10, 2021

The seller said he'd send the book(s) he had with it... I'm going to get a parts book, if there isn't one. Seem to be readily available on Ebay.
That's one thing the guy who bought my 1400 likes - I had owners manuals for the base unit, born heads, and grain head, plus a parts manual for the base unit. The Sund owners manual had a parts list, too.

lugnuts2030 · Feb 11, 2021

A MF 760 1974 model year was a early model.Years following many improvements were made for the operator, but the threshing area didn't change much other than some of the drive assemblies. Over the last 12 years I have bought 3 760's and 4 860's.for use. I have sold 3 of them for use.I bought 4 parts machines over the years and parted them out last summer so I have a good parts inventory. I have a 1977 760 in excellent condition for sale if anybody needs one. It does not have electric head flotation which is great for soybeans, only hold back on it. I have 3 late 860's with 4x4. I combine about 100 acres of corn and 100 acres of soybeans to combine annually.Over the last 12 years I have had about everything apart on at least one of the combines. Things do wear out but can be rebuilt. Case Nutty where are u located? I am in south central WI.JIM

Fordfarmer · Feb 11, 2021

What model(s) of MF corn heads fit a 106? I have leads on 2 Ford heads from 642's, but just in case they don't pan out...
Looking for a 6x30.

lugnuts2030 · Feb 11, 2021

I believe I had a MF 1163 with an a adapter for a MF 8460 combine. I think that is what MF did not sure. They were kinda rare so many would not know one if it was in front of them.

Case Nutty 1660 · Feb 11, 2021

I was thinking the first year was 74,, but now that you say that it would have been 1975, they had only one machine the first year cutting here, then in 76 they bought the second one to run with the first,, I am sure now as I remember talking about the fact they had 24.5 x 2 drive tires same as our New Agri King we had just bought that year, I am in NE Wyoming
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Chris in SK · Feb 11, 2021

Lugnuts, was there much to the adaptor? I've got a pick up header and a 30ft Claas straight cut for my 8460 , but I'd really like to find a 20ft - 25ft flex header for it. I think the MF flex header was a MF9650, but I haven't had any luck finding one yet. I've been thinking about adapting/fitting a Deere 925 flex header as there are a couple coming up in spring auctions.

lugnuts2030 · Feb 11, 2021

This one I had was on a corn head. Conversion from top drives to lower. Throat adapter change over. I think possibly that head is 20 miles from me saved for parts.

Chris in SK · Feb 11, 2021

Did it drop the drives straight down with chains and sprockets or belts and pulleys on the adaptor? That's what I've been looking at. The Deere header drive shafts are low down and the MF/Claas drives are at the top of the feeder house. Not sure if I'd get away with a normal PTO shaft running at that angle. The throat adaptor part shouldn't be too hard to figure out. I'm just in the thinking about it stage. Sorry Fordfarmer I should start a new thread.

lugnuts2030 · Feb 11, 2021

If drives are at top then a older MF head from the conventional combines should be a easier adaption since drives are at top also. The MF 1163 that have lower drives look to be built into the head to start with? It is all chain driven in the drop down drive on the head. I believe the adapter used pto like drive shafts running at an angle.

lugnuts2030 · Feb 11, 2021

If you have a top drive combine feeder house and want to adapt a head to it I suggest the 1100 series MF corn heads and the 9000 series platforms. Example a 1163 is a 6 row 30 in head A 63 is a older 6 row 30 in head but has hi tin and row covers dont hindge. The 9000 series has a bigger auger more user friendly power hookup than the older 1859 platformsA 9120 is a 20 ft. while a 9118 is a 18 ft. A 9020 difference than a 9120 is only the drive shield.

Chris in SK · Feb 11, 2021

Thanks for the info...

Fordfarmer · Feb 11, 2021

The 106 I bought has a 20' 9650 MF header with it. There's an 1163 on craigslist about half as far from me as the Ford heads.

Fordfarmer · Feb 11, 2021

One possibility for a corn head for me.
3 hour drive from me

Chris in SK · Feb 12, 2021

That's lucky. I've never seen a 9650 header but that should have the flexible cutterbar (9550 was the fixed head)....so you should be set up for beans and any other crops that get flat on the ground.

dairyman · Feb 15, 2021

These are pics I took of a Massey 8460 with a 1163 corn head at auction 2 years ago should show the adapter for the corn head looked really simple to make. Also if you get a head that was on a 642 youll need drive adapters to run it on your Claas those are still available. I have 2 642s and a dominator 96.
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