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That is interesting. Thanks.
It is fun to see other people's dreams. Some swing big, and once in a while they make the home run.
It is difficult to see $100 million coming from that acre and a JD 4400...... I lived through the sunflower, emu, artichoke, and other plans that were going to take off big. There were several new crops, very small seeds related to weeds, that were going to revolutionize farming around here, can't even remember which all ones.
Oh yea, the study south of me to grow 100,000s of acres of alfalfa, transport to a power plant, strip the semis out to burn for electricity, and haul the dry leaves back tot he farmers for potion feed. Several farmers went in to that coop plan, when it came time to think about breaking ground, the big power plant doing the study said oh, no, we were just researching, someone else would have to build it we have no interest.... left a few holding the bag....
Ethanol is about the only one that ever did make it. And people on here curse the heck out of that one.
The hemp business plan was to plant the crop, and now after harvest look for customers? That is a difficult thing. One needs to find customers before you plant the crop. Pretty much was the knife in the heart of every single plan I mentioned above. They always depended upon selling the harvest to other growers as seed stock, until a real market developed.... so the early folk would make a little money selling seed or breeding pairs for a good markup, but since a market never actually developed, it all crashed in in about 5 years.
I bet that acre seemed pretty big, running that green of a plant through the old combine to get those green seeds thrashed out. I do not envy that day's work!
So, the seeds are for seed stock and for oil? Ok.
I'm not sure how the fiber part works now, shouldn't the plant itself be dried down and harvested for that stem fiber? But, the combine mashed it down, and broke it up, and created green mangled stems on the ground and somewhat broken up green stuff blown out the back of the combine. I don't understand how that all turns into a good marketable product for making paper and cloth?
It would seem harvest would come later, with a bigger effort to get dry seed and whole fiber plant material that also is dried down and whole. Both then would be good stable products, dry for storeage, and future processing.
Again, seems a lack of planning of what is wanted and by whom. The raw material is before the use.....
Hemp was very widely promoted by the Hollywood community as a novelty to promote their desire to legalize Mary Jane. Yes I know they are different plants....
Now that Mary is semi legal in many places, I wonder if the fad of hemp paper and cloth will fade away? Back in the 40s hemp had a future as a strong fiber, but modern synthetic materials can now do better. This relegated grown fibers to novelty markets, really. Time has passed by the real need for the product. Cotton and sisal have established markets and processing, anything new will have a very hard time getting off the ground in a limited market.
I might seem down on the deal. I really wish anyone involved the best. I love the entrepreneurial spirit!
I just see the same warning signs of the old fad crops that will 'save rural america' with a wonderful new product. A lot of warning signs that this is not well researched or thought out.
Oh, my fad product I got involved in..... specialty particle boards made from soybean meal and newspaper. Was going to revolutionize how offices would be decked out in wood finishes and new looks on walls and desks. You can look up Phoenix Biocomposites, which morphed into two more organizations before it died. Was a farmer coop more or less, millions were invested, but they never did work out a solid market for their product. Along with many production glitches. Only cost me $10,000 to learn.
Paul
It is fun to see other people's dreams. Some swing big, and once in a while they make the home run.
It is difficult to see $100 million coming from that acre and a JD 4400...... I lived through the sunflower, emu, artichoke, and other plans that were going to take off big. There were several new crops, very small seeds related to weeds, that were going to revolutionize farming around here, can't even remember which all ones.
Oh yea, the study south of me to grow 100,000s of acres of alfalfa, transport to a power plant, strip the semis out to burn for electricity, and haul the dry leaves back tot he farmers for potion feed. Several farmers went in to that coop plan, when it came time to think about breaking ground, the big power plant doing the study said oh, no, we were just researching, someone else would have to build it we have no interest.... left a few holding the bag....
Ethanol is about the only one that ever did make it. And people on here curse the heck out of that one.
The hemp business plan was to plant the crop, and now after harvest look for customers? That is a difficult thing. One needs to find customers before you plant the crop. Pretty much was the knife in the heart of every single plan I mentioned above. They always depended upon selling the harvest to other growers as seed stock, until a real market developed.... so the early folk would make a little money selling seed or breeding pairs for a good markup, but since a market never actually developed, it all crashed in in about 5 years.
I bet that acre seemed pretty big, running that green of a plant through the old combine to get those green seeds thrashed out. I do not envy that day's work!
So, the seeds are for seed stock and for oil? Ok.
I'm not sure how the fiber part works now, shouldn't the plant itself be dried down and harvested for that stem fiber? But, the combine mashed it down, and broke it up, and created green mangled stems on the ground and somewhat broken up green stuff blown out the back of the combine. I don't understand how that all turns into a good marketable product for making paper and cloth?
It would seem harvest would come later, with a bigger effort to get dry seed and whole fiber plant material that also is dried down and whole. Both then would be good stable products, dry for storeage, and future processing.
Again, seems a lack of planning of what is wanted and by whom. The raw material is before the use.....
Hemp was very widely promoted by the Hollywood community as a novelty to promote their desire to legalize Mary Jane. Yes I know they are different plants....
Now that Mary is semi legal in many places, I wonder if the fad of hemp paper and cloth will fade away? Back in the 40s hemp had a future as a strong fiber, but modern synthetic materials can now do better. This relegated grown fibers to novelty markets, really. Time has passed by the real need for the product. Cotton and sisal have established markets and processing, anything new will have a very hard time getting off the ground in a limited market.
I might seem down on the deal. I really wish anyone involved the best. I love the entrepreneurial spirit!
I just see the same warning signs of the old fad crops that will 'save rural america' with a wonderful new product. A lot of warning signs that this is not well researched or thought out.
Oh, my fad product I got involved in..... specialty particle boards made from soybean meal and newspaper. Was going to revolutionize how offices would be decked out in wood finishes and new looks on walls and desks. You can look up Phoenix Biocomposites, which morphed into two more organizations before it died. Was a farmer coop more or less, millions were invested, but they never did work out a solid market for their product. Along with many production glitches. Only cost me $10,000 to learn.
Paul
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