Snagged a nice JD 105 Diesel Hydro

newgenjdcollector · Aug 15, 2017

Not that I need another project lol--but a running and driving diesel hydro fairly close to me came up for sale so I had to pull the trigger. Needs some attention here and there, but overall very well kept. Will likely have lots of questions for the experts going forward.

flying belgian · Aug 15, 2017

Back in the 60s the bto neighbor was running 1500 acres with a 105. Gosh it was fun watching him work his way across a 240 acre field of corn.

GreenEnvy · Aug 15, 2017

My cousins and about that much of wheat and barley through their 105 each year from 1966 to 1980 before they bought a 2nd one to go with the first. Its a diesel but no hydro. And then they still ran it off and on till about 15 years ago. Always marveled how they kept going with very little trouble and maintenance vs our Massey 510s.

Dugger · Aug 16, 2017

(reply to post at 21:36:57 08/15/17)

Nice find new gen
Dugger

Ragnarok · Aug 16, 2017

No refrigerated air?

newgenjdcollector · Aug 16, 2017

(quoted from post at 07:01:40 08/16/17)
No refrigerated air?

Yes it does have an add-on a/c unit.

Ragnarok · Aug 16, 2017

Cool!...That's a nice old combine. Top of the line in it's day.

tomstractorsandtoys · Aug 16, 2017

I almost went to that sale with the idea of bringing that home. We have a 105 diesel but that one with hydro and air conditioning made me really want to go. Wife had other ideas and right now we are kinda behind with some projects. Nice machine and glad it found a good home. Are you going to shell any corn this fall with it? Post some pics. Tom

newgenjdcollector · Aug 16, 2017

I'd like to shell some corn. I bought a corn head for it early this summer. I do want to ask you Tom, I want to run a newer head maybe a 216. What's a guy got to do to make that work?

Jim Pollock · Aug 16, 2017

If you don't mind me asking, how much did you have to go on it?

newgenjdcollector · Aug 16, 2017

More than I wanted to but what can you do when you find a relic close to home.

coonie minnie · Aug 16, 2017

There are not many left that nice... be proud. Below you mentioned a 216 head- I assume you mean a grain platform? Flex or rigid?

newgenjdcollector · Aug 16, 2017

Flex. I know the reel on the 216 is hydraulic but the combine doesn't provide constant hyd flow for the reel circuit. I found the below pic online somewhere and it stated that drive unit was off a different brand. Didn't know if that was something anyone has done as well or if anyone added a different pump on the box itself to run flow to the reel.

Also, I noticed on my other (not running) 105 the feeder house has a set of cushion springs underneath but this one the lift cylinders attach directly to the feeder house. How much difference does this make and would it be worth moving the springs from one machine to the other?

centash · Aug 16, 2017

Cushion springs, if like a Gleaner, were used on as automatic header height control
for a flex head. They made the system more sensitive to small changes in header
height. Ben

casecollectorsc · Aug 16, 2017

I run the reel from a pulley I attached to the auger shaft on a 220 flexhead...

fdt860 · Aug 17, 2017

The pump pictured is identical to a Massey 9000 header for 760-860 combines that do not have the hydraulic pump on the combine. Very common in Europe, but probably very rare in the US.
Other solution is to install the reel pump and control from a Massey 860 on the header? (so you can vary the speed with a knob).

newgenjdcollector · Aug 17, 2017

(quoted from post at 22:38:07 08/16/17) The pump pictured is identical to a Massey 9000 header for 760-860 combines that do not have the hydraulic pump on the combine. Very common in Europe, but probably very rare in the US.
Other solution is to install the reel pump and control from a Massey 860 on the header? (so you can vary the speed with a knob).

All great ideas and thanks for the info.

newgenjdcollector · Aug 17, 2017

Here is another hyd. reel drive that I found. Said the parts came off a 600 combine but it is hard to tell from that angle how the pump drive works. I think for simplicity I really like the belt pulley method like casecollectorsc has.

coonie minnie · Aug 17, 2017

We had a similar setup like that on a flex platform hooked to a 105... came up with a pump and resivoir, ran the hoses, had a valve set up you could adjust from the cab.

The float part is more problematic. Our 105 had (still does) an aftermarket header height control system. It worked, but after an hour or so, it would overheat the hydraulic system and then nothing worked
well. We usually had to set the platform manually, and adjust as needed. I have seen 105s with a separate hyd system put on to run auto height control- not sure how well they worked, but it was done.

I have only seen the spring system in pictures, and have no idea how well they worked.

Honestly, the 105 was a great combine... but I don't miss cutting beans with it one bit!

fdt860 · Aug 18, 2017

For the header height portion, simplest option is probably to put wheels with springs behind the header, kind of like a macdon, with large hydraulic accumulators on the header lift on the combine, to help the flotation.

Wheels from a fence row cultivator will probably work. Issue is that the 105 does not have feeder tilt, so you really need springs in the support. But springs are easy to find from cars salvage yard, so that is not really a problem either.

Other solution would be to add a 7700 AHHC valve and grab all the switches, harnesses, fittings, etc... from the donor 7700.

fdt860 · Aug 18, 2017

In fact from 7700 to 8820 Deere seems to use the same valve for AHHC, so parts should be easy to find.
You can also snag a reel pump and valve on a 8820 and install it somewhere in your 105.

newgenjdcollector · Aug 26, 2017

New Question pertaining to the curtions: My 105 has two curtains. Both appear to be shot where the rubber portion extends down. The book only touches on this briefly but how important are they and are they both used in all crops? If so should I somehow rebuild them and replace the damaged rubber portions?

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