Neat Brochure-Chrysler Industrial Power On The Farm

1206SWMO

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I recently won this 1955 Chrysler Industrial Power On The Farm
brochure on ebay and it arrived today..I sure like the front cover..I
have never run across a flathead Chrysler with a magneto..It shows a
NH baler having a Chrysler??? Also the MH tractor it shows has a Continental..
I wouldn't mind running across a Chrysler 413 flathead 6.

For over a day now ebay has been acting up on my computer....It half loads
and I can't sign on..I won an auction yesterday and paypal won't complete
the transaction...Others are having the same problem.My ebay days may be
over for awhile..
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Massey tractor is a 30, no Chrysler engine, but the 44-6 had one, as did the series prior to those..102,,203 etc. Engine on the NH baler sure looks like an air cooled V 4 Wisconsin. Ben
 
Blaine,
I think that's a typo. Chrysler of course made a 413 V-8, but never a flathead 6 that big, at least none my books show. The biggest is 265 and 225 with the OHV (b.k.a. slant 6). This pic is of an unusual irrigation pump at the Warp's Museum in Neb.. A 413 turned vertical made with a special oil pan, oil pump, and carburetor.
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Neat picture..There were five big flathead Chrysler or Dodge 6 cylinder truck engines
built that were 30" long....They were 281,306,331,377,and 413 cubic inches..

Below is a link to an article telling about some of them..Several years ago a friend was at a farm
sale where a 1950's Dodge road tractor sold...He said that it had a 413 flathead 6 with the dual
carburetors and it didn't bring much..
Large Truck Engines
 
Yes,that sure looks like a V-4 Wisconsin on the New Holland baler..
The 44-6 and 101 Senior Masseys had flathead 6 Continental engines..
The 201 Massey had a 242 Chrysler,the 202 Massey had a 290 Continental,
and the 203 Massey had the big 330 Continental..I once owned a 203 and
wish that I still had it.

The 1938-41 Massey 101 Supers used the 201 or 218 Chrysler..Pictured is
my 1941 model 101 Super and my 1945 model 101 Senior standard....I just bought
another 1941 101 Super and am also building a Chrysler powered 101 puller using
parts from several 101's.
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OK, I always found it hard to tell a Chrysler flathead from a Continental. Always had to look for the DCPD logo in the casting. Ben
 
I cannot help but wonder just how many Chrysler industrial engines there were out there in various agricultural applications? We had a 318 V8 in a 545 Oliver Combine. It was a good, durable engine in its day. I would be interested to see what sort of key differences there were between the automotive duty and industrial duty engines there were. I had a friend of mine who obtained a 327 Chevrolet V8 engine from (I think) a Gleaner self propelled combine. He used the block and most parts and rebuilt the engine for automotive duty. What I seem to remember from that engine was the engine had 4 bolt main bearings and a forged steel crankshaft. There might have been other things, but I am trying to remember something from 25 years ago. That 327 ended up being a good engine put into the half ton pickup it was installed into.
 
In some cases, industrial versions of had sodium-filled valves and the automotive version did not.
 
I wonder how many of the industrial 331 cid hemi V-8's were actually installed in farm equipment. That had to be a fairly expensive engine.
 
A lot of auto engines were adapted for farm equipment...4 cylinder Chevrolet was used on swathers, Chevrolet 6 and small blocks used in Gleaner, slant six and Ford sixes were used in swathers as well, 318s were used in Oliver and Cockshutt combines, GM 305 V6 was used in Uni-Systems. Ben
 
DID Massy Harris have them in the 82-92 combines.. I know the Hesston self propelled hay conditioner FIL bought in the 80's had a slant 6 in it. I thought the Owattona swather he had prior to it had a slant 6 too.
 
Great brochure Blaine, I sure enjoy these, man if we could be back to those days again. Thanks. Dan
 
Terry,413 Dodge flathead 6's are few and far between..Not very many people
know about them...I didn't until a few years ago..Heres a picture of one
with the dual carbs..
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Ben,the easiest way to tell a Continental is the distributor is on top
and goes thru the head...The distributor is on the side on a Chrysler..
 
Heres the 82 MH where my 230 came from....She was pretty rough..The owners
son said it had been overhauled not long before they quit using it..
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All Massey SP combines prior to the 300-410-510's ran Chrysler flathead
6 cylinder engines except the Massey Clipper SP which had a 4 cylinder Continental...
The Massey SP corn pickers had 6 cylinder Continentals..
 
Ande,I see that spell check changed your name to And..Its gotten terrible
at changing things on my computer..
 
Probably not the one I traded unless the cab was removed and a bat reel added. I transplanted the 230 into the 82 sometime in the mid- 1970's when I didn't know much about Chrysler flatheads. The 230 came out of a 1954 Dodge pickup. I ran it for one year with the 230 but it was under powered. The tranny out of the Dodge now turns the homemade ice cream maker at the Albert City Threshing show.
 
That 82 pictured was sold new by the Massey dealer in Oswego,KS.
You could still read the sticker...What happened to the original 230 in
your 82 Massey?
 
I thought it was supposed to be a 251 originally? The original engine was plum wore out and didn't have any power. I probably hauled it off for scrap. I needed all the cash I could scrape up back in those days. I do have a freshly overhauled 251 sitting in the barn ready to be put back into the '48 COE Dodge truck chassis that is also sitting in the barn. It's one of those 'never get around to it projects'.
 
As far as I know all 82's had a 230 in them from the factory...The 80 that
came before them only had a 218...In about 1 hour i'm going to go 35 miles and
pick up a 218 from an 80 Special..The combine was too nice to be junked
but no one wanted it...The engine will live on in a 1941 Massey Super tractor..
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Great find. What caught my eye is that one industrial engine is the first generation Chrysler hemi V8. I wonder if it was one of the large Chrysler 331 or larger, or if it was one of the little Dodge Red Ram hemi engines of the 250-300 CI range ?
 
I just find it strange (and confusing) that two completely different engines (V-8 OHV vs. L-6,) made by the same company would have the same displacement (413). Thanks for the picture and the lesson. You always post interesting stuff.
 
Waukesha made a 817 cu overhead valve straight six and a 817 cu inch V8 gas. I overhauled the straight six and put it in a military tractor but I didn't know they made the V8 till I saw one that had been used for irrigation in Dighton Kansas. The V8 was set up for natural gas but it was a gas nonetheless.
 
The V-8 engines shown are a 270 and a 331..I would assume they
were mostly used as irrigation engines..
 
We had a super 92 with the 265 but it was different than the picture. It had a belt driven governor and a side draft carb (that flooded easy). I want to say that the carb also had a sediment bowl on the flywheel side.
 
Massey combines didn't have room for a down draft carburetor so
they used an updraft carb..So did 101 Massey Super tractors..

My Wards ER pulling tractor pictured has a 251 Chrysler Industrial with a down draft
carb from the factory and a belt driven governor..Theres just enough room under the
hood for the carb..

A 251 I recently bought off a water pump didn't run a governor..The 265 IND 33 pictured
in the literature has a magneto and a gear driven governor..
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I thought it was side draft but it's been 30 years since I crawled under one. I only remember taking it off once for a cleaning and I was in charge of cleaning, not removal. I remember how easily it flooded, though. Heaven help you if you turned on the gas at the platform before you got it started. I'm sure there were needle and seat issues but it ran so well otherwise - it wasn't worth fixing. Dad always said it was because of the miles of line to get from the tank to the engine. It just had too much pressure. That was dad's version of "I have no idea but I'll think of something".
 
I had seen a few M-H self propelled corn pickers in Ill. that had the 4 Cyl. engine. They were very much under powered. In hilly or muddy fields they were pretty much worth less. clint
 
durn , blaine ,,.you guys area wealth of info ,,. lol ,. farmer fudds vertical 413 just blew me away ,. if I woulda took bets on all these questions I would a lost every durn time ,. especially on the 413 strait 6, and the vertical 413 ,. glad you guys are saving a few
 
When the Army sent me to heavy equipment mechanic school in 1963 there were some of those 413 cubic inch six cylinder engine there I equipment. There were also 2 versions of the 318 engine. The ones with the saw tooth edge valve covers and the later ones with straight edge valve covers.
 
Later 44-6s had the Continental 226ci; distributer through the head. 44-6 was a 5 speed. Mine is a 1947. Good running engine, great sound, no torque. Massey sold them for several years. They were $150 cheaper than the 4cyl.
 

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