Settings for a gleaner K in oats part 2

lee little · Jul 13, 2016

Okay so I got started with the K in oats today. Started and everything seemed to be going well at first. Went a couple hundred feet and stoped to check as suggested. Everything seemed pretty good except 1 spot with a hole , got that fixed and continued. I had a young man helping me so I had him follow on a 4 wheeler to check for loss. When I got several hundred feet thru the field he flagged me down because I was losing a lot out the back. This wasnt happening at the first check. I was in first gear so I dont think I was traveling too fast. The manual says a possible slipping separator belt so I will check that tomorrow. I hope some of you more experienced guys have some suggestions.Thanks,Lee

JMS/.MN · Jul 13, 2016

What is your fan speed? Could be blowing it out over the chaffer. Oats is relatively light and goes over more easily than wheat or barley.

lee little · Jul 14, 2016

I am not sure on fan speed. The factory tach was torn up before I got the combine.It was replaced by an engine only tach. I have a tach ordered that you can point at a pulley to determine rpm to aid me in getting things set right. It is not here yet and may be a few more days. Suggestions? Thanks for the help JMS/MN

jzdieseltech94 · Jul 14, 2016

JSM is right probably the fan speed is to fast

big orange · Jul 14, 2016

Blowing it out or riding over the shoe? Top chaffer could be shut to much and or the bottom sieve also. Does it have paddle fans or a squirrel cage? Never saw paddle fan to ever have too much air, squirrel cages it was possible.

paul · Jul 14, 2016

It is not uncommon for the very light shriveled up filled kernels to blow out. So -some- suff coming out the back in oats might be normal. My oats fields will regrow as good as when I planted them, so maybe 3-5 bu an acre of this really light seed would be tolerable, maybe desired if you want to sell a good test weight oats.

Then, likely as mentioned slow the fan way down if it is blowing stuff out the back. You want the fan speed enough to carry the light stuff out the back, but not so much as to blow the oats out the back. It is a rather delicate adjustment since oats seed is so light and has the hull, compared to corn or beans.

I'm more familiar with the f series of combines, but I've seen lots of slightly different setups from the oldest to the newest, old had 2 fans never could slow thrn down enough, think they had baffles on the opening of the fan to close them down more. Newer designs have one fan and are easier to adjust on the go. Not sure what your K has.

Paul

Tim(nj) · Jul 14, 2016

Another thing to look for is for holes in the sheetmetal under the clean grain and tailings augers. Wear and critter pee (and water if the machine was ever left outside) are the usual culprits for that.

lee little · Jul 14, 2016

Thanks guys! I think I have it about ready to go now. Went to the field this a.m , got everything adjusted and started for a test run. Blew a hole in a metal line going to the header. Ran to the parts store to get stuff to fix the line. Just as I got it fixed it started raining! O well maybe tomorrow or the next day. Thanks again for the help. Lee

JMS/.MN · Jul 14, 2016

Hole in a metal line? T%hat"s a hyd line,and the reason you NEVER crawl under the header without the mechanical stop in place! re fan speed- I can"t remember how the K was set up- been 40 years since I bought it...do you have an indicator in the cab with numnbers 1-7? Usually ran about 5 for small grain.

centash · Jul 15, 2016

Keep slowing the fan down until you start getting trash in the bin. Then, speed it up slightly to get a sample you are happy with. Chaffer and serve adjustments will help getting a better sample as well. Ben

lee little · Jul 15, 2016

I knew it was a hyd. line because the header wouldnt lift and the atf squirted out the pin hole. If it had the fan control in the cab its gone now. I looked at my other K to trace down the linkage for it. What I am going to try is what Centash suggested untill I get things figured out. This sort of makes me feel foolish sometimes because I have farmed all my life[61 years] but combines are new to me. My other machinery I can pretty much listen to and tell when its in the correct RPM range. I hope I cant get too old to learn lol. Thanks for your help, I am also thankful for this group.

big orange · Jul 15, 2016

Unless a K is different than any other Gleaner, fan speed is constant, you change the air by closing or opening the chokes.

paul · Jul 15, 2016

Depends on the age of it. You might be correct if it is an older one. My 69 F had 2 fans, one constant, one with the board as you say. Wonder if it shouldn't have had a shutter on the sides too for oats.

F2 had a hand crank in the cab, change fan speed of the single fan.

I would guess the K series followed the same pattern for the models.

Paul

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