agco parts wth Massey

just got the output bearing ,seal parts and champfer shims for my late 750 massey ,,. next day air cost 115 bux ,,.the bearing was 44 bux..,if shipping exp was not bad enuf ,,. some the seals and shims don't fit my machine,,. aint no way shape or form ,..what in the world and who in the world is pulling prts at agco ???,,. towel heads and drug addicts ??? ... don't wanna have to ever make this repair again ,,.sure wisht I could have confidence that I have the correct and very best parts,,./// and btw ,, getting that pulley off the output shaft is like along hard labor and finally birth ,,. this is one repair that masseys are notorious for being ornery to work on

Your finding out why MF has almost a ZERO market share around here, North-East Iowa. I have seen many late model Gray cab MF 760 and 860s not bring $1000-1500 for lower houred machines. There is next to no dealer support for the MF here. The Agco dealers here where either AC dealers or are real new and only deal with the White/Massey rotor machine.

Also that bearing and pulley your talking about is a real bear to fix/repair. There where several MF that mysteriously burnt the night after that bearing went out around here. The guys found out the repair would cost more than the combine was worth if they had to hire it done.

Is there any bearing supply houses in the area? They can probably do a better match than AGCO does. Most of the bearing supply people know more about bearings and seals than some parts guy. Take the old parts with you to a bearing house; you may get exactly what you need for less money.

I know what you mean agco is terrible at dealer support. I've seen them pull contracts away from smaller dealers because they don't sell enough. They did that with two dealers in my area now the few guys that did have agco stuff will probably trade it off for Deere. The higher ups at ago must not have a brain because they think pulling a dealer away from a small dealer will help sales there idiots!

When I was looking for an older small combine for my little pickle patch I found two combines. A K Gleaner with a gas engine and A 300 Massey with a Perkins diesel. Both came with heads. Both were in about the same physical shape. After comparing the two machines it took me about 20 minutes to decide which one I was going to use!!! I feel really sorry for anyone who has/had to work on these masseys!! Odd size bearings, impossible to reach MAJOR componets, some bearings looked to be on the verge of impossibility to change. The Massey's fate was sealed!! I used a red wrench to remove the engine and scrapped the rest!! I have used the Gleaner for 3 years and am very happy with it, I don't think there is one bearing that would take over an hour to change. The down side.....I have to deal with AGCO!! I can get most wear parts like bearings, belts, etc. aftermarket but some parts do need to come from AGCO. I have found most parts still available but getting them and them fitting is another thing!! A lot of the parts should be shipped with a grinder or file with a sticker saying "some modification required"!! I have no problem paying up for parts, but they need to fit properly if I am paying over $50.00 for a oil seal!!

The next time you see a low houred under (1,500 hours) MF 850 or MF 860 combine sell for $1,000 or $1,500 you buy it. I will come buy it off you and give you a buyers fee. Massey Ferguson quit making these machines 27 years ago. You are not working with new technology, that design was engineered some 18 years prior in the early 1970's. You guys are complaining about 45 year old technology. Deal with it! I'm always surprised you can still get parts for a combine that old. When I look at tractorhouse I really don't see the great resale value that all you guy green guys rant about. See link to low houred 1,056 houred JD 8820 combine. http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=9948623 See the link for a high 4,600 houred Massey Ferguson 850. http://www.tractorhouse.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=9734139 I would expect a machine with 3,500 hours less hours to be worth more than that. Then you throw extra ten grand because it has the green paint. I would expect the dealer to be asking $40,000 for the machine. The last 8820 that I saw sold in Kansas only brought $8,000.

I must be lucky. Very rare that I call my local MF dealer and they don't have a bearing/belt/ wear part for my 550s on the shelf. They were a MF dealer when these were sold new though. Usually a couple 510s or 550s on the lot.

860s from out west are finding their way back east, and are finding use on medium farms(500ish acres) that don't have ego issues(requiring new green/red paint to appease).

what you failed to consider is that though the Massey is sometimes a little harder to work on you will work on it a lot less than you do those light built gleaners made out of old Budweiser cans and bearings guaranteed to fail along with three times the machinery needed, btw I'm still running a Massey and with commodity prices down it will do the job a few years until I get an axial flow, Massey had lions share the combine market in swMn until the early 80's, Van's in Hull,Ia can get what you need.

(quoted from post at 01:15:08 12/10/15) just got the output bearing ,seal parts and champfer shims for my late 750 massey ,,. next day air cost 115 bux ,,.the bearing was 44 bux..,if shipping exp was not bad enuf ,,. some the seals and shims don't fit my machine,,. aint no way shape or form ,..what in the world and who in the world is pulling prts at agco ???,,. towel heads and drug addicts ??? ... don't wanna have to ever make this repair again ,,.sure wisht I could have confidence that I have the correct and very best parts,,./// and btw ,, getting that pulley off the output shaft is like along hard labor and finally birth ,,. this is one repair that masseys are notorious for being ornery to work on

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So I guess your Massey Ferguson was a real MF!

Well Masseypride. That JD 8820 you linked to is not a low houred machine. The current tach may say 1250 hours but the rusted tail housing says more like 4500-5000 hours. The JD 8820 will sell for less money than the JD 7720 or 6620. The JD 8820 is an solid eight row machine. A 6 x 30 header will fit but your rows had better be straight or your going to run over corn. So the JD 8820 and JD 9600 are a lower priced combine because they are too big for most smaller farmers and too old for the large grain guys.

As for the Massey combines. I do not know of a single one left around me here. The 750/760 sold a little better but most where bought for the six cylinder engine. The V-8 that the 850/860 uses is not worth much as it was used in few tractors around here.

The last MF 860 I saw sell was about six months ago at an auction in South-east MN. It was a 2500 hr. machine and looked good. It had an 8x30 corn head and a 20 foot grain table. All shedded and in nice shape. The entire package brought $2800 and was cut up for scrap the next day. I saw it being cutup when I went back to get some things I had bought.

Ten years ago when I was still at the dealership any MF combines traded in around here usually went straight to the salvage yard.

Finding parts for them is not always easy, but they are nice machine to operate. I love the 750-760 and 860 more than the 20 series deere, which where more complicated, more difficult to work on (but have higher values because they are John Deere).

As far as that bearing go, I fixed it on my 860. Was not too bad to pull. I made my own puller by welding 9/16 bolts to 2 3/4 all threads. Then drill a U channel that would go at the end of the shaft and tighten the 3/4 nuts to get the pulley out. The big thing is that the pulley is installed with loctite, so it needs to be eaten to around 350-400F, and then it goes out very easily.

That bearing is a weak point of the 700-800 series. They only fixed it on the 1984+ models, and that is a bit of a shame. A friend of mine put a TV8-640 in his 760, so the shaft broke almost instantly. He put a bigger shaft and bigger bearing and now never had any problem after that even with the extra power.

I had a chance to drove a little bit the very first 760 combine, and run the very nice 1976-1977 760 that those 2 british fellas harvest with in OK, and that like-new 760 was for sure like a dream to drive. My 860 is not as nice but still goes around...