Gleaner F and F2

Have a lead on a F2. It is a variable drive with the 4 cyl diesel,
has a bucket elevator so it's manual auger. Tires look good,
walked it and wiggled stuff and it looked like normal wear.
What are the different parts to look at that are different from
the F?
 
Engine is the main diff. F2 has a better cab with updated controls, electric separator clutch, most internals are the same, but they were updated throughout the series.Ben
 

what serial number? If under 39201, it"s an early F2. Short shoe, so separating capacity is similar to model F.
 
I'm not sure what bucket elevator means, my 68 f, 77 F2, and the later F3s all had the same elevator, the first 2 were manual fold, the last 2 hyd fold.

Generally simple machines wear like any other machine of course, look at the clean grain bottom auger for wear, look at the sheet metal under the engine for cracks, check the rubber mounts on the right end of the engine that drive the unload auger.

The 77 F2 was very similar to an F; in 1978 they made big changes and still called it an F2. Sort of made that 77 F2 an oddball, caught in between.

With the 4 cylinder engine, I would say you are looking at a later model, long shoe F2.

Paul
 
It is a 1978 or later. The first year 1977 F2 carried over the 6 cyl N/A diesel from the F. Then in 1978 when they went to the long shoe the F2 got the 4 cyl turbo diesel.
 
bucket elevator was usually found in the edible bean special. Does it have a spike tooth cylinder in it (which a bean special would have) or the rasp bar? If this was used to harvest a lot of windrowed dry beans it has eaten a lot of dirt in its life which means extra wear. On any variable belt F2, if the transmission makes a growling noise or it rumbles and jumps as it moves, there's problems. New parts except for bearings are NLA for that transmission so keep it in mind.
 
If you get the chance, and don't mind, I'd like to see some pics of the elevator side. I'm raising some cowpeas for seed and dropped a spike cylinder in my F2 this fall. Liked the way it worked. Didn't crack too many when I picked them up out of a windrow, even though I stayed with a belt drive on the cylinder and only got cylinder rpm down to 420.

Was wondering about the bucket elevator and the bin extension. Isn't there some kind of extension on the paddle elevator when you have the bin extension? If so, does the bucket elevator have one, or does it not use a bin extension?

Mark
legumeseed.us
 
It is a later model F2 with the square back. Are the transmissions the same in a F and F2? I see the variable speed is different and the input shaft is different. I'm not sure if it was used a lot in editable beans or not. It only has a corn head and is a corn/ soybean special, with cylinder bars.
 
All F2s are square back. It isn't a bean special then so dirt wear won't be worse than usual. Somebody for some reason wanted a bucket elevator instead of the standard elevator on an FKS. It 'might' move corn up to the bin faster which means the machine won't overload as quickly in heavy corn.
 
Is the stripe with the model name on the side of the bin white or black? If it is white, the combine is early (77-78) and probably has a short shoe vs the long shoe. i.e. "short back".
 
Make sure concave door and concave have not been damaged and or sprung over the years. A concave door bent such that clearance is greater in the centre than on the ends will be hard to adjust properly and will reduce capacity. Door and concave should shut squarely and evenly and have no twists or deformation and should spring open when an object is encountered. Check that the false floor for the raddle is not 'bellied down' in the middle or the raddle chain will pinch cobs between the slats and the floor and cause the raddle clutch to slip. Very frustrating because sometime the cob will follow the slats around to the underside where it will be harder to see. Make sure the beater right behind the cylinder has no cracks in the beater panels, as well as the beater behind the raddle chain, if so equipped. If it has a powerfold auger, check where the auger attaches to the swivel unit to see if it has started cracking, or better still, if it has been updated with a larger slopeing flange on the swivel unit. If it has done a lot of beans, the bin floor auger may have worn the bin floor through where it transitions into the angled unloading auger. You will not find a combine that will harvest for less fuel per acre than a gear drive F2 or F3. Simple to set/adjust, simple to repair/service and simple to operate; get a long back if you find one; lots of used parts available and new parts though expensive, are for the most part, available as well.
Good Luck, Ben
 
Are the concave doors the same as an F? I have a decent parts F. A guy gave to me and I drove it 32 miles home. That's why I am curios what the major differences are. I'm running an F now with a bucket elevator. Have a real nice A430 head and want to stay to a smaller simple combine. Thanks for your advice.
 
Pretty sure they are the same.Grab a flashlight and tape measure and crawl underneath to make a comparison.The door is simple to remove.Also, have a look behind the console for the monitors on the overhead panel. Mice like to nest in there, and can do a lot of damage to the electronics. The combine will operate fine without them, but it sure is nice to have the critical functions monitored (engine , trans, shaft speeds etc.) for more worry free operation. Ben
 
go to agco part books online you can cross reference the part numbers of the parts you are interested in ,I've found a lot of the same parts are used on different and models
 
If you have the black frame corn head make darn sure that the same number of shims are removed from behind each bearing support for the adjustable drives. Improper shimming will cause the shafts to run on a slight angle and very quickly wear the splined parts which are costly to relace. The black frame heads are a decent header; no gear boxes, though the open bevel gears can be noisy. Ben
 

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