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OK...Here's a new one...

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Dave H (MI)

06-09-2014 05:36:03
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Guy finally called me on one of these big money combines. Gleaner F2, has grain head and bean head. Asked about corn head and he said, "NO, it has a bucket elevator on it...ain't no good for corn."

That's new to me. Is this something different from the usual Gleaner or is it just his opinion?




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Matt Griggs

06-14-2014 09:36:46
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Dave H (MI), 06-09-2014 05:36:03  
Where are you located at? I am located in West TN. I have a neighbor that has a F3 that I"m trying to get him to sell because I harvest his grain for him. It has a spike tooth cylinder but he has harvested a lot of corn with it before. It has I believe a 13" or 15" flex head and a four row 38" corn head. It has always been shedded and I think it"s in fairly decent shape except for augers and I think the cylinder needs to be rebuilt

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Dave H (MI)

06-14-2014 13:49:32
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Matt Griggs, 06-14-2014 09:36:46  
I am in SE Michigan. I guess I would say I have trucked things further. Off the top of my head I have had a mower brought down from MN and I had a tractor brought up from MO...two from IL. Getting down to look at it will be the hard part. TN is a long drive and I been there in the summer. You folks have a whole new spin on the word "hot". :)

Trying to line up a trip in a different direction at the moment. Gonna go look at an F3 that needs a little help and a couple of IH that I can't afford. All that is available right now...other than an F a fella has on Craigslist right now listed for $1750, but "shoot him and offer, he is tired of mowing around it". Those are words that keep hope burning bright! PASS!

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Matt Griggs

06-15-2014 18:16:44
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Dave H (MI), 06-14-2014 13:49:32  
We if you get desperate send me an email. Robmgrig@hotmail.com. I can take some pics of it if you're interested.

You're right about the weather. My family and I drove up to my in laws lake house in Luddington last weekend. I about froze in 75 degree weather after being in 90 degree weather with 100% humidity.



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Red n Green

06-10-2014 10:16:22
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Dave H (MI), 06-09-2014 05:36:03  
If you open the thresher door you can see what type cylinder it has.



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Dave H (MI)

06-10-2014 12:16:08
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Red n Green, 06-10-2014 10:16:22  
You see, therein lies the problem. While I could, with a little trial and error and some logical reasoning, eventually find the thresher door. Once I opened it I would not know one cylinder from another. 24 hours ago I did not know there was more than one type of cylinder...or buckets vs paddles for that matter. Seems like I would be better off looking at the combines that have corn heads on them to start with. At least then the percentages are in my favor that it MIGHT actually have the correct innards to efficiently clean and move corn.

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Tim(nj)

06-11-2014 06:12:11
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Dave H (MI), 06-10-2014 12:16:08  
For looking at future Gleaners . . . the thresher door is under the feeder house between the hydraulic cylinders. You will see a big latch with a spring that holds it shut. The tool that hangs in the bracket by the unloading auger serves as the lever to operate that latch when needed. The thresher door is designed so if a rock enters the cylinder, the door latch pops open, the door drops, and the rock falls out. You will, however, be notified by the cab alarm that the thresher door is open, and must stop, crawl under lifted header (after setting the safety stops) and close the door. When that door is open, you can see the cylinder. The regular cylinder will have serrated bars on it. The door will have concave bars, which could be either c-channel or more aggressive serrated bars. The spring-tooth cylinder will have what appears to be a version of hay rake teeth on it. I can't remember what the concave side looks like off the top of my head.

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Dave H (MI)

06-11-2014 14:58:35
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Tim(nj), 06-11-2014 06:12:11  
Ahhh...that's that rock door everyone was telling me about last winter. Something about be careful where you are when you open it...something about the design and hitting you in an unmentionable area. Yes, been told to have a careful glance in there. Appreciate the information. I keep it all on file so I have a reference when I go looking. Don't always remember to read it before I post questions though. Bad habit.

I will add this to the file...thanks!

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Dave H (MI)

06-10-2014 10:01:29
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Dave H (MI), 06-09-2014 05:36:03  
WELL, I guess the thing to do here is to take the word of the guy who owns it...not a good match in corn...and cross it off the list. I would not be able to tell from looking at it if it would work or not and I only have budget for one old combine. Guess this one is going to end up in the rear view mirror.



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Nathaniel Watts

06-09-2014 18:41:09
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Dave H (MI), 06-09-2014 05:36:03  
I'm willing to bet if it has the cup elevator it has a spike tooth cylinder as well. Just my opinion. Not sure why the elevator would not work for corn. I'd think it would work better with more capacity.



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Paul

06-10-2014 09:56:46
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Nathaniel Watts, 06-09-2014 18:41:09  
I'm just not at all familiar with those options, but what I was thinking - a spike tooth cylinder would be different, not at a all familiar with a bucket elevator tho.

Paul



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Dave H (MI)

06-10-2014 12:18:25
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Paul, 06-10-2014 09:56:46  
What? No edible bean and pea special in the Gleaner museum? How about I buy this thing and truck it over to your place and you give me something nice in trade?



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Paul

06-10-2014 22:13:15
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Dave H (MI), 06-10-2014 12:18:25  
;)

Paul



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Dave H (MI)

06-09-2014 18:54:02
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Nathaniel Watts, 06-09-2014 18:41:09  
You would have to tell me what a spike tooth cylinder is, I am afraid. Not familiar with all the options. I assume this is something different than the conventional grain combine?



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coonie minnie

06-09-2014 18:08:18
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Dave H (MI), 06-09-2014 05:36:03  
Consulting with a parts book might be a good idea. Is it just a matter of a new chain??? Or a different sprocket to speed it up?



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Dave H (MI)

06-09-2014 18:52:50
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to coonie minnie, 06-09-2014 18:08:18  
Not thinking I am going in that direction. Easier to find one set up for corn if this one cannot handle it as is.



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gbs

06-09-2014 17:32:36
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Dave H (MI), 06-09-2014 05:36:03  
don't see what difference that type elevator would make,take a look at allstates ag parts web site punch in on salvage equip.,then f3 gleaner, they have a late model 4wd in their salvage section,if that machine is in as good of shape as it appears I'd hate to know it's going to be parted out



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Dave H (MI)

06-09-2014 17:56:20
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to gbs, 06-09-2014 17:32:36  
That's in Iowa my friend. Shame but I doubt they would sell it to me even if I could get there and get it back.



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Tim(nj)

06-09-2014 14:25:42
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Dave H (MI), 06-09-2014 05:36:03  
Edible Bean and Pea special. I'm trying to wrap my head around why a bucket elevator is no good for corn?



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Jm42

06-09-2014 17:58:23
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Tim(nj), 06-09-2014 14:25:42  
I would think the bucket elevator would be set up to run at a lower speed. Not sure though. Would this combine have standard cylinder bars in it or tines.



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Tim(nj)

06-09-2014 19:53:25
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Jm42, 06-09-2014 17:58:23  
Even if it runs slower, I would think the buckets would lift more at a time than a corresponding paddle, so should still work. But usually the bucket elevator was on a machine with a spring-tooth cylinder, so maybe that is the problem.



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Dave H (MI)

06-09-2014 15:22:15
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 Re: OK...Here's a new one... in reply to Tim(nj), 06-09-2014 14:25:42  
You and me both, brother. It's not like I don't know what he is talking about, I have seen such a thing outside of combines. Guess I will wait for a consensus of opinions. :)



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