Info on pull-type John deere combines? - 96, 106, 6601

rockyridgefarm

Well-known Member
Hey all,

I was wondering if one could find a larger pull-type combine like a 96, 106, or 6601 and be able to direct cut small grains, soybeans, and corn. I don't see much info about these larger units. There's a video on youtube of a 42 shelling corn, so could it be done with a larger one?

EDIT - got to answer my own question. Video of a 7721 shelling corn -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn3iWoaUZ5Y
 
Corn heads were not available for the 65, 96, 106,
or 6601. The 7721 would handle a 4 row. Nor would
it be easy to adapt them, as most of those models
did not have a swing pole, plus the feeder house
would need to be offset on the corn head.

There are pictures posted on here of our 96 when we
sold it this spring. We had purchased it with some
of the ideas you have, but never got around to it.
 
I have often wondered the same thing.But then I
wonder how do you 'open' fields?Run over standing
crop?I run a PT (hydroswing) swather for the same reasons
you want a PT combine.For corn,you'd want a SP
machine.
 
(quoted from post at 12:15:20 12/28/13) I have often wondered the same thing.But then I
wonder how do you 'open' fields?Run over standing
crop?I run a PT (hydroswing) swather for the same reasons
you want a PT combine.For corn,you'd want a SP
machine.

It's not *much* of an issue on my farm because I'm on contour strips. You simply drive on the hay strip next to the corn.

So, a 7721 or a 42 is the only options for pull-types in corn? How much HP is needed to pull a 7721?
 
Just out of curiosity why are you
so dead set on a pull type. I"d
think it would be a nightmare
trying to stay on the row with a 4
row head off set like that. Yeah
there"s choppers with 3 rows but
the tongues shorter and your
sucking the whole plant in versus
trying to get ears to feed in and
not fall forward off stripper
plates. Just my 2 cents.
 
Gosh,you need weight as well as Horsepower.So ,125
minimum.4430;1066;1256.....Otherwise,you'ld have the
'tail waggin the dog'
 
That thing would scare me on uneven ground. It's huge. I'll bet he'd be pulling that with something bigger if he wasn't a flatlander. The smallest I would use is the 4440 with loaded duals. You would have to take the right dual off though.

It all seems like a headache. Buy a 105.
 
I saw that rig and talked to the owner quite a bit
and the half century show in August. They could
handle any 443, 444, or 543 corn heads. No special
design just for them. The direct cut heads would
be another story. I do know that you can use a 3
row narrow on a JD 96. It would be an interesting
rig for sure. The owner of that 7721 said the 4620
pulling it had no problem power wise for any
conditions. He said on moderately rolling ground
it was also plenty of tractor. BTW the 7721 was
also for sale too.
 
I have a 4430 open station, so power is there. I may buy a late 4630 for cheap hp sometime soon. You're probably right that it'd be more difficult on contours as you'd have to adjust the hitch depending on uphill or downhill.

It's less of a Need and more of a Want. Something to take to a thresheree, but also something to do a little harvest. This is hay/corn/soybean country. One has no problem finding someone to cut corn or soybeans, but finding someone to cut oats or wheat is a PITA.

I had a Gleaner m2 and wouldn't mind finding a rig like that again, but no one turns their head when driving by a Gleaner in the field.

Whether it ever happens is anybodies guess, but I'd go for the 7721 if I did it.
 
A 3 row on a 96 would take some significant re-engineering.

The simplest route would involve a 95 quick tach. You have to redo the head lift, as a 96 used cylinders not under the feederhouse, but off to the side, off the right axle.

The right axle may need to be narrowed, as the wheel base may be too wide to clear the corn.

The tongue MAY work, but they were non adjustable on a 96, and just cleared the platform- which had the feederhouse on one end.

If you saw a 96 with a 3 row, or any row, it was not a factory deal... and it wasn't simple to set up, either.
 
I believe there was also a 7701, offered very
briefly before the 7721. The 4 and 5 row heads
fit that.

9501s are out there, too, and there may have been
corn options for them.

About the only place you saw these critters was in
the Dakotas and Canada... and corn in ND was not
as popular then as it is now.

65, 96, 106, 6601 would take A LOT of work to
make. Not quite like building a 60 crawler, but
it wouldn't be a weekend job.
 
When 4430"s and 7701"s were new, we did corn and
soybeans with the 454 All Crop head. Fit right on
the 7701 or 7721 or maybe even the 9501. Yes they
made a 9501 too but I have only seen pics. Worked
OK in corn but in beans it was a pain to keep on the
row. When you turn to correct it gets further off
before it gets back in line. Remember the pole is
very long on those 3 pull types. Have not seen a
7701 around in years. Once in awhile a 7721. Lots
of 914 IH pull types around still but going fast.
 
These days, GPS, if you have it, would help with staying on the row. I remember seeing somewhere that Deere made less than 200 9501 combines, which is why they aren't seen.
 
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If you are serious about harvesting corn with a pull-type (not just playing on a few acres), forget about the 42 PT with the 2-row head. Very slow - this machine is smaller than a 45 SP!
Get a 7721 (or 7701) if you can find one. Hope you have large headlands to turn that long rig around!
 

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