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Re: Straw

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Erik Ks farmer

03-11-2013 06:04:16

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Thanks, Eric and Nick that is what I was looking for. I've heard it both ways, I plan to square bale about 40 acres of straw. I do not want to hire it cut.

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03-11-2013 10:46:47

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 Re: Straw in reply to Erik Ks farmer, 03-11-2013 06:04:16  
I dont blame you for not wanting to hire it done when you have a machine already. Theres no doubt a walker machine is more suitable for straw but like I said Ive square bailed a lot of acres behind a red combine and even are green rotaries we have now. Man 40 acres of straw. If your square bailin sure hope you got a lot of help. Thats why we quit bailin as much straw was couldnt get help. Kids just dont wana work that hard anymore I guess. Seems like I mita forgot somthing on your combine settings but I think between what I had and Erik had that should just about cover everything.

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Erik Ks farmer

03-11-2013 11:30:29

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 Re: Straw in reply to nickg, 03-11-2013 10:46:47  
Yes, have a feed store that sells as much as they can get locally. They say the landscapers like straw out of a rotary. Btw this is a wire tire baler, I think the bales will hold together alright. I don't have a lot of help, just my wife, a hired man and a pop up bale loader. Work never hurt me yet. :wink:

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03-11-2013 13:26:45

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 Re: Straw in reply to Erik Ks farmer, 03-11-2013 11:30:29  
Sounds like you got a good thing goin there. I bale with an old IH wire bailer my self. It looks ruff but I wouldnt trade that thing for a new one.Holds the bails together real nice and dont have to worry bout the strings rotten or getting chewed up by mice. We sold to a lot of landscapers and a company that seeds along new road ways and sidewalks. As long as it went threw the straw blowers or covered there grass seed they didnt care what color combine it was or if it ws short or long and most people in town strawing there yards or bedding for there dogs dont know the difference or could really care less. Best of luck.Id offer my help and would love to help but kansas is a little far away for me to drive.

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cooney minnie

03-11-2013 11:51:26

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 Re: Straw in reply to Erik Ks farmer, 03-11-2013 11:30:29  
Something to keep in mind... and, please, this isn't meant to be red vs green. But you will get less straw from the rotary. The rotor turns a lot mor material to dust and fines that won't pick up with the windrow. This can be good, it keeps more of the fertility in the field. Keep in mind straw contains quite a bit of P and K.

But here's the deal. I mentioned my neighbor and how I buy some bales of rotary straw from him, as well as he does some custom baling for me (combined with walker). More often than not, yield is 3x to 4x the number of little bales per acre from the walker. Same guy baling, similar wheat, different combine. There may be a little more straw in the rotary bales by weight, but they are very similar. He loves his rotary, but is always amazed at the pile that comes out of the walker.

It is very concievable that if you are selling by the bale, the extra bales will more than pay for having someone harvest for you. No kidding- you will most likely have extra money left over... or in my neighborhood with straw going for $2-$3 a bale before the drought you would.

Good luck- I'm gonna put on my welding jacket now so I can stand the heat...

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03-11-2013 08:42:35

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 Re: Straw in reply to Erik Ks farmer, 03-11-2013 06:04:16  
Just a note Erik, but regardless of what Eric and Nick said, you will still have very poor quality straw that will not make much of a bale, and will come apart very easily. Very poor for bedding, but will already have a good start if you just want to grind it and mix it with hay. Just a thought, but if you still had the old MF combine, you could possibly make a few rounds with that? I have an old 95 JD that I use to cut the wheat I am planning on using for straw. The IH will work, but you won't be very happy with the results. If it is all you have though, it will be far better than nothing. Bob

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