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Combines & Harvesters Discussion Forum

Have choice of Two, which combine should I buy - need advice

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fortsteele tractors

12-12-2012 22:22:34
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I am new to antique combines but not new to combines as I run on a regular basis. I am wanting to get a combine for a couple acres of wheat or grain instead of summerfallowing large garden plot.I was seeking a combine project that had a straight cut header as I do not want a swather. I am in an area with not very many old combines but I have found these two:

Allis Chalmers All Crop - PTO drive with pick up and Reel which is not currently on as owner was using a swather. The comebine was used 3 years ago on 5 acres. The older gentleman kept it up but does need some TLC. The reel was beat up really bad and the slates and wood arms have been busted off many years ago.

Gleaner Baldwin E self propelled combine with a straigh cut header and melroe pick up. The combine is parked in need of repair. It was bought, fixed up some ( bearings feeder house) and ran for 1hr in wheat with the pick up and the clutch gave out. The engine needs a fuel lift pump or an electric pump. The cluth is was told by the owner was available online for a couple hundred from a wrecker. The tires hold air and the combine is complete but well used - came from a research station way back when

The price for these machines would be about the same, $500

My question is which machine if fixed up would be the better combine considering im working in 1-2 acrs plots?

are there sites dedicated to allcrop combines? reproduced parts? manuals? how do i tell which model this unit is?

Are there wreckers or reproduction part suppliers who would have parts for the gleaner combine

I have a couple of tractors, would my farmall H run the all crop?

thanks

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fort steele tractors

12-14-2012 08:18:00
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 Re: Have choice of Two, which combine should I buy - need advice in reply to fortsteele tractors, 12-12-2012 22:22:34  
yes i"ve been tossing this back and forth the last couple of daysabout which way to go. I agree the price is a little steep but like i said in my area this old stuff is hard to come by and if I start looking out of area I start getting into extra cost for shipping ect.

Today im leaning toward the All crop as ome pointed out the self, the gleaner i feel will cost me more money to get going but because it has more wear parts in it plus an engine that already needs work - fuel lift pump that i know of - have not seen or heard of the motor running yet. The other challange is that the guy selling is junk going to scrap the combine as he can get more for it as metal than a working machine which is sad.

The all crop is complete minus the broken reel and the owner has kept all the belts and canvase's indoors. there is minor repairs such as sheet metal and a reall good one over to check bearings ect. Plus the bonus is I know my H runs and don't have to worry about that part.

I have been loking around the net for a pictureclose up of the reel to see what material I would have to get if Iwas going to remake the reel - any one come across close up pictures of know the measurments of a reel.

I have determined that the pull type is an all crop 60 - the very common one.

Thanks for the help - keep the suggestions comming

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fort steel tractors

12-14-2012 08:29:15
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 Re: Have choice of Two, which combine should I buy - need advice in reply to fort steele tractors, 12-14-2012 08:18:00  
oh ya i forgot- im alos stuck on how to haul the all crop 60 if i decide on that one - its wide - 10'6" which puts it over width on my trailer deck.

any suggestions on how to haul these?

I was thinking of taking the pickup/ header off and then the hitch. Then i would pick up and put the the body of the combine down the lengh of the trailer. i kno thos bolts holding all this together have not been turned in 60 years so I will have to have my torch handy and a decent front end loader to lift on.

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Tom Yaz

12-14-2012 13:51:26
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 Re: Have choice of Two, which combine should I buy - need advice in reply to fort steel tractors, 12-14-2012 08:29:15  
the combine can roll on a 106" wide trailer..

Other wise...



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casecollectorsc

12-14-2012 11:44:10
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 Re: Have choice of Two, which combine should I buy - need advice in reply to fort steel tractors, 12-14-2012 08:29:15  
If the wheels are less than 8' apart it will go on a gooseneck trailer. Back it on, chain it, flag the overwidth and go.



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ihr190

12-14-2012 04:16:48
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 Re: Have choice of Two, which combine should I buy - need advice in reply to fortsteele tractors, 12-12-2012 22:22:34  
Well, the price does seem a bit high for either machine. However, something to consider. Which machine, in working order, would be easier to sell in YOUR area? I always look at it from that angle too. At some point, you probably will want to upgrade. How easy will it be to sell it? I had a Gleaner E two years ago before I bought the F2. It was a great little combine. I think I would opt for the self propelled. As mentioned above, the H would be ok if fields were flat. My opinion, ofcourse.

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paul

12-13-2012 16:03:18
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 Re: Have choice of Two, which combine should I buy - need advice in reply to fortsteele tractors, 12-12-2012 22:22:34  
The self propelled will handle small plots _much_ better without running over most of your crop.

But it will cost you _much_ more to repair and keep up.

Man I wouldn't want to have to choose on that.... I can see why you ask us!

--->Paul



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DeltaRed

12-13-2012 07:35:28
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 Re: Have choice of Two, which combine should I buy - need advice in reply to fortsteele tractors, 12-12-2012 22:22:34  
$500 is a little steep for a 'fixer'.I would lean toward the pull behind.Less maintaince(no motor/drive train,etc).Simpler to work on.Biggest negative is the draper canvase.Yes an H will pull it.After all it only had a AC 'B' engine on the non pto modles.



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tomstractorsandtoys1

12-13-2012 07:33:45
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 Re: Have choice of Two, which combine should I buy - need advice in reply to fortsteele tractors, 12-12-2012 22:22:34  
All crops were good machines but $500 should buy you a very nice one.Most places a good E can be bought for $1000-1500.If that one needs work you can spend $500 or more real fast on parts. For small fields a self propelled would be nice so you do not have to run any crop down,but it will take more upkeep and shed space.Any combine that you want to depend on should be stored inside.



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JD Seller

12-12-2012 23:23:52
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 Re: Have choice of Two, which combine should I buy - need advice in reply to fortsteele tractors, 12-12-2012 22:22:34  
Neither of these seem like a real deal to me. They both are going to need some work to get them going again. The pull type would be the hardest to use but you maybe able to find the parts for it easier. There are many of them being made after market for them. The self propelled machine would be nicer to use but may cost way more to fix.

As far as your IH "H" pulling the combine. It would work if you are pretty level. It would be kind of heavy if you have real steep ground.

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Tom Yaz

12-13-2012 02:41:20
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 Re: Have choice of Two, which combine should I buy - need advice in reply to JD Seller, 12-12-2012 23:23:52  
Well Im biased, tell you that up front.

E Gleaner nice little combine, but overkill for 1-2 acres. Maintenance $$ will be much higher.

$500 seems high for an allcrop in that condition. But location of the country you are in makes a difference. Could be a bargain if on long island for example

new Allcrop parts are easier to find as long as I still feel lke providing them , but really not a "lot" of aftermarket sources.

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