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Iowa_tire_guy
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A Fonzi machine.
Ralph Bauer
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OHHHH, how CUTE!!!!!
Makes me wanna be a wheat farmer!!!LM_O !!!
On the other hand, if they work well, service/parts avail. is good and they don't cost much..... worth a second look....lol
Makes me wanna be a wheat farmer!!!LM_O !!!
On the other hand, if they work well, service/parts avail. is good and they don't cost much..... worth a second look....lol
Absent Minded Farmer
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I see a robot on the side. Is that combine some kind of new Transformer? Lol!
Mike
Mike
Ralph Bauer
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I just realize how BIG that cab is and the huge buddy seat, it's as big as a loveseat!! Wonder why??
Maybe made for "husky" Americans?? HHHmmmmmmmmmmm...
Maybe made for "husky" Americans?? HHHmmmmmmmmmmm...
Fordfarmer
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Ummm... where's the unloading auger? And do you
really need 6 headlights when you have a -what-
maybe 8'-10'head? (and it looks like there may also
be lights at the lower cab corners)
really need 6 headlights when you have a -what-
maybe 8'-10'head? (and it looks like there may also
be lights at the lower cab corners)
Oddly, it's on the right hand side of the machine. I've cut enough soybeans at night to know that you can never have enough lights shining on the ground in front of and on the header! I wonder if I should replace my New Idea picker with one of their little SP machines . . . not sure that little side-dump box would get me all the way around the field, though.
SP corn picker
SP corn picker
RedRoundhead
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I believe the "thumbs up" decal denotes the super-awesomeness of the machine. My chinese is a little rusty, so I may be mistaken!
Anonymous-0
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I saw a calender from john Deere that had a picture of their combine assembly plant in china. made me wonder if the were building the 55 over there. with they were smart enough to reliese that if they would made the m here they could sell a lot of them.
I doubt they'd sell many. On other boards, most of the so-called "real" farmers want bigger bigger bigger with all the expensive creature comforts and turn their noses up at anything basic . . . I'm a small farmer who doesn't want to go out and fight rent wars, who has a need for a small combine, but I'm realizing there ain't too many like me left.
I would too if the parts availability was there . . . I've been told too often by the 'experts' that either I need to get out because if you don't go big, don't bother, or that I would be better off hiring somebody with a big, bad, new machine to custom harvest . . . problem is, there is nobody around here to hire . . . .
Parts availability is there for the machine. The only problem is parts shipments would take 10 days.
I can't get a big machine. I don't have enough acreage and I couldn't do more than 10 acres before having to tram it down the road to teh next field. I would spend all day taking the header on and off of a big machine, just to do 40 or 50 acres. Also, the way my land lays, I can't run a header bigger than 15 foot.
I can't get a big machine. I don't have enough acreage and I couldn't do more than 10 acres before having to tram it down the road to teh next field. I would spend all day taking the header on and off of a big machine, just to do 40 or 50 acres. Also, the way my land lays, I can't run a header bigger than 15 foot.
I hear you. I have a Gleaner K2 with a 10 foot head that gets me to fields down roads with narrow bridges that the big guys can't fit through. However, she's getting long in the tooth and parts will be getting less and less available . . . only thing with this Chinese machine is that it doesn't appear to be able to take a corn head . . . .
RedRoundhead
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Yes. Big farmers. You know that 10% of the farmers that took money form U.S. Farm Bill's subsidies took over 75% of the dollars ($20B from 1999-2001)via Enviromental Woking Group/USDA data. These are the ones who preach "bigger, faster", and want bigger machines. I am always so happy to pay my taxes to fund the big farmers subsidies so that then they can pay the high rents with essentially MY money, and I get to compete with them, in this great "free" market that is the USA. It's just great. I am apparently dumber than I thought.
I would like to buy a new small combine, too.
Sorry for the rant; corporate farms p**s me off.
I would like to buy a new small combine, too.
Sorry for the rant; corporate farms p**s me off.
most the parts probably are off the shelf bearings, belts, etc. what couldn"t be bought at Motion Industries or BDI probably could be ordered and had in a couple of days or probably pretty easy to fabricate. I do say though that if guys really wanted them, they could easy buy them and have them shipped in, equipment is shipped all over the world. I"m guessing there aren"t too many who would write the check though. It is probaby built very light when compared to the US machines that were in that size range
did you read any of the specs for the combine? It's not built light by any means. 88 hp diesel engine for a 90 inch header, 40 bushel grain bin which is basically the same as an All-Crop 90 pull-type, except this one has air conditioning, full cab, lighting, turn signals, winsheild wipers, power steering, variable speed drive, am/fm radio, and a bigger separator area than an all-crop.
FOB cost $12,900.
1959 all-crop 90 price $2200.
$2200 with inflation in 2011 dollars----- $16,684.91
So, the Gleaner was more expensive back then, considering what it didn't have makes it even more-so.
I'm just saying... It wouldn't take much for an American engineer to work up an Americanized version of this combine, with some of the standard things we are used to having(like and unloading auger) and less Henry Winkler-meets-optimus-prime style and You would have a combine, shipped to the good ole USA, of the same quality as the Kioti and other import diesel tractors everyone is buying, with the same parts availability, and service as those other imports, for probably less than $25,000 or $449 per month for 60 months at 3% interest. and that is assuming that the American importing company makes approx 25% profit with current overseas shipping rates to be 1 combine per sea can, with a rate of $5000 per intermodal container. Plus cost of truck freight from harbor to inland destination, set-up, etc...
Basically, it is completely reasonable on all ends, but apparently, the market dictates that there is no demand in the US market for these small affordable combines that have bells and whistles...
dang...
It's a shame...
FOB cost $12,900.
1959 all-crop 90 price $2200.
$2200 with inflation in 2011 dollars----- $16,684.91
So, the Gleaner was more expensive back then, considering what it didn't have makes it even more-so.
I'm just saying... It wouldn't take much for an American engineer to work up an Americanized version of this combine, with some of the standard things we are used to having(like and unloading auger) and less Henry Winkler-meets-optimus-prime style and You would have a combine, shipped to the good ole USA, of the same quality as the Kioti and other import diesel tractors everyone is buying, with the same parts availability, and service as those other imports, for probably less than $25,000 or $449 per month for 60 months at 3% interest. and that is assuming that the American importing company makes approx 25% profit with current overseas shipping rates to be 1 combine per sea can, with a rate of $5000 per intermodal container. Plus cost of truck freight from harbor to inland destination, set-up, etc...
Basically, it is completely reasonable on all ends, but apparently, the market dictates that there is no demand in the US market for these small affordable combines that have bells and whistles...
dang...
It's a shame...
Fordfarmer
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That description fits me too...
I was lucky enough to find my NH1400 with less than 1500 hrs. on it... but it won't last forever.
I was lucky enough to find my NH1400 with less than 1500 hrs. on it... but it won't last forever.
Ralph Bauer
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Not whithstanding my earlier comments... I a buying a 1950 60A all-crop from my mechanic.... needs a LOT of restoring rebuilding, but I like the idea of a single machine being able to do many different types of harvesting ( with attachments, of course). As I said jokingly, parts availability is the key,but why wouldn't the importer/US headquarter have certain parts in stock once the volume in sales increases? (demand and supply). I am mostly concerned about chemicals, especially lead in the paint, and the adherence to specs, stamped vs. milled/laser-cut parts, etc. Would feel more comfortable buying Japanese or Taiwanese, or S. Korean over Chinese Equipment...at this time.
I think that a lot of self sufficient folks, small organic farmers would appreciate NEW small equipment.
All said, there is a certain satisfaction and pride in restoring or keeping older equipment going, never mind the laughs from scrappers and big farmers, corporate farmers..... Growing up in Germany and moving here during my last year in High School (that was in 1986), I still have a hard time understanding the need to replace something historic with something more modern and not wanting to preserve for future generations as a learning tool, a part of our identity as Americans, ... history!
I think that a lot of self sufficient folks, small organic farmers would appreciate NEW small equipment.
All said, there is a certain satisfaction and pride in restoring or keeping older equipment going, never mind the laughs from scrappers and big farmers, corporate farmers..... Growing up in Germany and moving here during my last year in High School (that was in 1986), I still have a hard time understanding the need to replace something historic with something more modern and not wanting to preserve for future generations as a learning tool, a part of our identity as Americans, ... history!
I wish I could preserve more things for future generations, but the great part is, most of these machines are a dime a dozen, and we have video cameras on our cell phones, digital pictures with resolution so high you can see a gnat riding a house fly from 25 yards. I think these things will be preserved in history. Imagine if someone had a video camera when they built the pyramids of Egypt. That would have been sweet...
Getting way off track...
My point is, If I didn't rely on the combine to make money... no not make money... I meant "break even," then nothing would stop me from putting a velvet rope around it and charging admission.
LOL
Besides, I need to get my hands on teh first imported Chinese compact combine so I can make history for the rest of you! LMAO
Getting way off track...
My point is, If I didn't rely on the combine to make money... no not make money... I meant "break even," then nothing would stop me from putting a velvet rope around it and charging admission.
LOL
Besides, I need to get my hands on teh first imported Chinese compact combine so I can make history for the rest of you! LMAO
For 25k I could own a cherry 6620 Titan II that would cut circles around that machine, and every part I could need down the road or a 1 day wait, and a pretty good supply of parts in boneyards. Probably why nobody is importing these things. I'm running a 4420 now and would like ot move up to a Titan II or 9400, with the latter pretty unlikely, $$$$$. Anyway, I'm pretty sure my $5k outfit will get me through the next 5-10yrs as I search for the perfect machine.
Fordfarmer
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I've only run corn at night - only did a few acres of bean for a couple years, and we tend to have too much dew to combine at night. But I can see what you mean about never having enough light.
Just read the other post saying it has a 90" (7'6") head. 6 headlights should be plenty for that!
Just read the other post saying it has a 90" (7'6") head. 6 headlights should be plenty for that!
I've never seen a cherry 6620 TII for less than $35000 around here. Many of the ones that get jockied here are beat-out midwestern rejects with rustoleum restorations and can be expensive PITAs to keep running . . . and Deere is starting to slip on parts from what we've been used to . . . My Gleaner has needed work but it does its job. If it were possible to buy a new combine that size, I think I'd want a rotary . . . .
RedRoundhead
Member
Right. Same here, only it's grain farmers / mega dairies.
fixerupper
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Looks like you could seat the whole family in the cab. Jim
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