My next problem

wjkrostek · Dec 24, 2010

I sure am getting a lot of knowledge from my posts and emails. Now for my next problem is moving it. One fella told me a 1 ton dually will not pull a K that far. It is not any easy pull (10,000 lbs) but I think it should do it. I've done similar before. Here is my plan. Use a one ton flat bed with transmission temp gage and extra trans cooler. Put the header on the flat bed and the gleaner K or E3 on a 7 ton equipment trailer tie here down and hit the road. What do you pull yours with, what trailer and how far?

Any one with pictures of a K on a trailer during their moves if you could please send me them I would appreciate it. I'm getting lost in all these posts so I started new. I cant go down there until March or April so I'll get off here and study your suggestions and look at the pictures and leave you all for a while and enjoy the pictures. Thanks for all your help Merry Christmas.

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G.Fields · Dec 24, 2010

This was my experience. I purchased a K with both heads 120mi from home, and didnt want to pay to have someone haul it. Took my rig 3/4 ton duramx and 7 ton gn. Pulled the machine with corn head up on the trailer and backed it right back off. just sticking my head out the window made the trailer lay over 6 or 8 inches way to top heavy. Dad said i was a candy a$$, and that if i drove reasonably i would have made it. Im sure if everything went right i could have but all it takes is 1 retard pulling out in front of you, blown tire, etc etc and your screwed and with the length of your trip one or all of the above are more a reality than a probability. In the end paid $300 to get it moved and would gladly pay it again.

Anonymous-0 · Dec 24, 2010

Obviously you are considering a lot longer distance, but we towed a 18,000 lb tractor with a heavy duty 3/4 ton and 28 ft triple axle trailer. Just don't get in a big hurry. However will admit we didn't tow over the Rocky Mountains.

Green Envy · Dec 24, 2010

Hauled a JD 3300 with a 343 corn header and then a JD 55 with a 13ft header from MN to MT with a 3/4 pickup and 24ft goose neck trailer. No problems whatsoever.

1206SWMO · Dec 24, 2010

Well,my old underpowered 1991 Ford F-350 7.3 IDI 5
speed dually and 25 ft gooseneck has probably went at
least 10,000 miles hauling home over 20 antique
combines.So it can be done.The worst thing that
happened was losing a clutch slave cylinder 3 miles south
of Princeton,Indiana plus an alternator near
Sullivan,MO.This all happened on the same trip.I had a
spare alternator with me.

I probably never was 100% legal so living where I do,I had
the luxury of mostly driving the back roads in sparesly
populated country..I've been over 600 miles east to 50
miles east of Louisville,KY and over 800 miles west to
Kimball,NE.I was over width most trips.

A combine has tremendous wind drag so mileage really
suffers.I usually got 7 mpg at 50 mph.The worst combine
I ever hauled was a 123 McCormick that was 13 ft wide
and 13'6" tall.It came 400 miles home from
Ransom,KS,sometimes at only 35 mph driving in to a 30
mph east wind.

wjkrostek · Dec 24, 2010

can I ask what size trailer you had? what was the width, length and the Gross Wt on the tag? Well I would of never made it to Alaska with some of those trips. enjoyed see them. I just live in the wrong place. Be careful there are some big fines if you run into the wrong man. Maybe it's better you don't know that. Wish I could see some E3 or k's on trailers.

IHC Red · Dec 24, 2010

That's an amazing collection of old iron.

I had a similar clutch problem with an '89 F150 4x4 5 speed. The slave cylinder was replaced and it still had issues. Once everything warmed up, it was impossible to let the clutch out smoothly. A mechanical linkage would have been much better in my opinion.

That truck soured my taste for Fords. It had <50k miles and looked mint, but every system that held oil leaked... differentials, transfer case, transmission, engine main-seals, steering box, brakes, clutch, ... that truck made me sad. A gal at work has a similar vintage Bronco and she leaves an oil-slick every day. (Sorry for the rant.)

1206SWMO · Dec 24, 2010

My trailer is a Starlite 20+5,two 7,000 lb axles,102"
wide,and is rated for 14,000 lbs.I have a 8,000 lb winch
on it.My truck is rated for 10,000 lbs and I run a 26,000
lb liscense.

Like I said I run the back roads loaded,never cross a
scale,and stay out of big towns.They dont pay too much
attention to you in farming country.Yes,you do live in the
wrong place.Hauling old combines from western Kansas to
western Missouri isnt really all that bad.

Hauling an E3 or a K Gleaner wouldnt bother me any at
all.I see F's on gooseneck trailers all the time.They are
very popular fescue machines in my area.

wjkrostek · Dec 24, 2010

When you say 20 + 5 what do you mean? Is the 5 in the dove tail or in the Goose neck? The flat bed is 20 ft.? How much do you pay for such a trailer down there and can you find them used. I don't want t goose neck because I want to save the bed space. But the 14,000 is what I need. Wish I could see some E3 or K's on a 96 inch trailer. Thanks

Anonymous-0 · Dec 24, 2010

I've hauled 10,000+ lbs with a F350 and Reese hitch and wouldn't want to do it for a 1000 miles. I suggest antisway bars if going that route. A Goose is just a much better deal. Install a convert-a-ball or similar, and you will not need to lose bed space for other hauling. Yes, the 20 ft usually means the flat deck length and 5 ft is a five foot dovetail. We have end risers that allow the dovetail to be made flat, which I assume can be done on many other trailers that don't have a fixed dovetail.

wjkrostek · Dec 24, 2010

without the deck of the truck I would need an extra 10 ft on the trailer. The length of of an E3 is 22ft 3.5 in I'm told and thats without the 10 ft header. So I need the extra space. I don't need a 35ft trailer.

mulcher · Dec 25, 2010

Son Hauled our new to us 1420 with 4 row wide corn head from eastern Iowa to NE Colo with his 3/4 ton chevy. Got a ticket in Neb. because his mirrors didn't extend out wide enough. No other problems. Trailer is a tandem dually 24 ft. with 5 FT. Dovetail. Had to stop and buy fuel often.

Iowa_tire_guy · Dec 25, 2010

(quoted from post at 16:05:54 12/24/10)

A combine has tremendous wind drag so mileage really
suffers.I usually got 7 mpg at 50 mph.The worst combine
I ever hauled was a 123 McCormick that was 13 ft wide
and 13'6" tall.It came 400 miles home from
Ransom,KS,sometimes at only 35 mph driving in to a 30
mph east wind.

Would it help to put a tarp over the leading end of the combine to cut wind drag?

1206SWMO · Dec 25, 2010

An E3 Gleaner is a short combine and will easily fit on a
25 ft gooseneck.Its 23 ft long with the header on and that
counts the divider points.

You pull the straw spreader off and back it on putting the
rear of it up over the gooseneck.You then pull the 10 ft
header loose and turn it end ways.You are allowed a 4 or
5 ft over hang off the rear of the trailer and you will never
use all of that.I have hauled combines with 14 ft headers
and do this and never hang over more than 5 ft.

The top picture is my 1957 A Gleaner with 14 ft head on
my 25 ft trailer.I'm not 30 ft long with the header
turned.The bottom picture is a rare T Gleaner with 10 ft
head on my car trailer.

gaston ruiz · Dec 25, 2010

here is my way

gaston ruiz · Dec 25, 2010

this is my way

fixerupper · Dec 26, 2010

A good healthy ton dually is good enough for the job. We used to pull a gooseneck double header trailer with two-39 foot MacDon draper headers for thousands of miles with a 2006? Chev 1 ton dually Duramax. The headers were in the area of 8 thousand pounds apiece. It pulled very,very hard but the Chevy could take it. It didnt set any speed records. I could spin the rear wheels taking off from a stop sign but when I was up to speed the wind resistance took over with a vengeance. I would think pulling that Gleaner would be an easier job than pulling this header trailer.

We pulled an identical trailer with identical headers with an International 9300 day cab with a Cummins 350 and the International and Chevy were just about side-by-side for power. Jim

Kris A NC · Jan 3, 2011

Just out of curiosity, in the second picture, is that a 55? If so how tall was that load? Do you recall?

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