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Cub Cadet vs. John Deere

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bill

06-21-2004 08:59:03
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I cut about 2 acres and I'm stumped on which one to buy. It's between a Cub Garden tractor with 23 horse Kohler with a 54 inch deck for $4000.00 or a Deere 280LX with 18 hp Kawasaki with a 48 inch deck for $4200.00 Any Suggestions?




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ANON

06-23-2004 17:40:45
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 Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to bill, 06-21-2004 08:59:03  
If you are going to spend $4000 for a mower, look at some of the zero turns. There are some out there with 44" decks for under $4000 and you will cover a lot more ground than a riding tractor. Cub was selling some thru the internet and would ship them for $100 not that long ago, maybe in March or April.



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ken

06-22-2004 20:55:44
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 Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to bill, 06-21-2004 08:59:03  
heck my deere doesn't use any gas to mow 5 acres.



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JP

06-23-2004 06:00:30
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 Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to ken, 06-22-2004 20:55:44  
The Deere's don't use gas and they fertilize the lawn at the same time, kinda like a goat. :)



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Cool Tuesday

06-21-2004 22:13:02
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 Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to bill, 06-21-2004 08:59:03  
Oh man... I actually think these "debates" are just to get one's blood pumping. Cub Cadet vs John Deere vs Simplicity vs Sears versus.... etc. Okay, what about the CaseIH Farmall line has a nice little tractor around the same size. What about Massey Ferguson garden tractors...aren't they made by Simplicity so same tractor just different paint and decals. What about a McCormick tractor? They have a neat little four wheel drive model. Or how about an Ingersoll? They've been around for years. As far as Sears........go out and buy a Roper whereas that is who makes their gartden tractors. Oh and for the gentleman that says you can buy a belt for them on a Saturday or Sunday. I agree up to a point. After so long that belt which by the way cost a LOT more than if you go to your local auto parts or fam store or even most hardware stores will have to be ordered thru Sears. So now your weekend mowing has to be put off until that belt comes in. (My ex brother in law had that very same problem. After three weeks he was tired of waiting and upon my suggestion went to the local True Value and bought a belt.) As far as Cub Cadet versus John Deere or ANY other garden tractor or lawn tractor.... remember HOW you take care of ANYTHING is a major factor. I have seen a Cub Cadet beat to death in a couple of years and the same with a John Deere or any item. DEALER support should play a factor. Summing it up I suggest this. You have two acres to mow. You haven't said if there are a lot of obstacles or not. Flat, rolling or whatever. I personally think the gentleman that suggested the Grasshopper has a good suggestion there. Now let me suggest this to you. Have you thought about goats, or a cow or two? Just think milk... meat...pets. (Now I will close with saying the last suggestion is in fun and not to be taken seriously.)

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leland

06-21-2004 20:23:41
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 Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to bill, 06-21-2004 08:59:03  
Iused to own a 2 ac lot and mowed it with a 14.5 hp MTD i bought of lowes new for $850 and used it for 5yrs and only bought 1 deck belt and 4 sets of blades and only used about 1 1/2 gals of gas .Took about 3-4 hrs ,I also thought about a bigger mower but look at the money i saved



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farmboy

06-22-2004 19:38:27
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 Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to leland, 06-21-2004 20:23:41  
1 1/2 gallons of gas in 5 years...Thats incredible..I'm going to Lowe's tomorrow



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leland

06-22-2004 20:04:09
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 Re: Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to farmboy, 06-22-2004 19:38:27  
farm boy 1.5 gal to mow 2 ac wheelhorse only got rid of tractor bacause my new home has only 1/3 of ac yard left tractor for kids that bought our old place and it still runs like new. ya just got to take care of them i always change oil every 5 hours they will run a long time just like that old wheel horse good luck been a pleasure to have this debate with ya all



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wheel horse

06-22-2004 11:50:38
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 Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to leland, 06-21-2004 20:23:41  
I have a 1966 1056 Wheel Horse I bought 7years ago,mow approx 1.5 acres never replaced belts, have sharpened blades several times and replaced them once, Paid $275.00 for it. If you bought any tractor and only used it for 5 years, I would not be happy if I were you. If I spent $850.00 for a tractor that lasted only 5 years, I would be mad as I could be.



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Wayne

06-21-2004 15:25:06
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 Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to bill, 06-21-2004 08:59:03  
John Deere and the Kawasaki for any amount.



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Wayne

06-22-2004 14:10:14
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 Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to Wayne, 06-21-2004 15:25:06  
If you knew that you wanted cub why did you ask for or about something else??????????



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txblu

06-22-2004 10:23:16
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 Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to Wayne, 06-21-2004 15:25:06  
I prefer the single cylinder engines and Kohler is excellent. Have 2



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Wayne

06-22-2004 14:07:10
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 Re: Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to txblu, 06-22-2004 10:23:16  
You must like spending money on gas. But that's OK



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txblu

06-23-2004 06:09:37
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to Wayne, 06-22-2004 14:07:10  
How you figure that. If I can mow my 2 acre yard with 1.25 gallons of gas I'll take it....which I do with my Kohler single cylinders.



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don

06-21-2004 14:17:02
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 Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to bill, 06-21-2004 08:59:03  
I'm not up on numbers but I'm assuming the JD is a tractor and I know personally that my son has a Grasshopper with a 48" deck and 18 horses and he can mow my just under 2 acres in 52 minutes and it takes me an hour and twenty minutes with my 2284 w/60" deck and of course that 5 ft deck is all that Kohler wants. I know I'm going to look at a ZTR when ever decide to swap. I'm going to buy a walk behind snow blower that 54" blade is hard on my concrete drive.

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OTR

06-21-2004 14:06:18
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 Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to bill, 06-21-2004 08:59:03  
Stay away from newer JD JUNK !!!!!!!!!!!!!



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lawn man

06-23-2004 05:36:15
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 Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to OTR, 06-21-2004 14:06:18  
how many land scapers and lawn services do you see using cub cadets/mtd



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txblu

06-23-2004 10:55:30
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 Re: Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to lawn man, 06-23-2004 05:36:15  
I don't require the ruggedness that their occupation dictates and thus don't have to pay the price.

Mark



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txblu

06-22-2004 10:21:56
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 Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to OTR, 06-21-2004 14:06:18  
Definitely not so.



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Jim_WV

06-21-2004 12:04:11
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 Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to bill, 06-21-2004 08:59:03  
Which one makes you smile the most ? :).

Personally speaking, for two acres if all you are doing is mowing, they are both too much money, but thats up to you. You could get a JD L120 to do the same thing and save your self a couple grand, but it's your call.

Good luck,
Jim



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bill

06-21-2004 12:21:15
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 Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to Jim_WV, 06-21-2004 12:04:11  
I'm throwing another one at you, someone told me not to forget the Simplicity Conquest, 50" deck and 20hp Vanguard engine, keep the help coming



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Ron

06-21-2004 13:08:32
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 Re: Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to bill, 06-21-2004 12:21:15  
Buy a Craftsman. They are no worse than the made in china JD junk and cost half as much. Plus you can get belts and whatever on Saturday PM and even Sunday. Stay away from Kohler engines. Buy a Honda or B&S ELS or Vanguard.



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txblu

06-23-2004 06:11:58
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to Ron, 06-21-2004 13:08:32  
Where'd you get the idea JD was made in China?



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Ron

06-24-2004 00:28:51
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to txblu, 06-23-2004 06:11:58  
All the low-end JD lawn tractors have been made offshore for many years now. It's the only way JD could compete against the $1,500 Craftsman, Wal-Mart, etc. competition.



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txblu

06-21-2004 11:41:30
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 Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to bill, 06-21-2004 08:59:03  
I started with a 30" 8 hp JD in 1978 mowing my 2 acres plus. Kept thinking bigger is better. Finally went to a 3cyl diesel with pto driven 3 blade 48" turf mower. Problem was that with mower in the rear, turning had to be very careful as the radius of the mower would sideswipe seemingly everything. Head was to the rear all the time and the exhaust was in your face or sticking up in the tree limbs.

Wanted some landscaping so decided to downsize. Started with a Scotts briggs 21 hp 48 3 blade. Noisy as heck, took more than 2.5 gal of gas and had to watch scalping all the time. Kept having engine fuel problems so gave it back to Home Depot for a Scotts Kohler 15 42 2 blade. Much better,quieter, more manueverable and did the yard on 1.4 gal of gas.

Decided to retire the Scotts to cutting the dam around the pond (as I was afraid of old iron tipping over) and bought a new mower for the lawn.

Since I have a live fence plus numerous shrubs, turning radius, efficiency, quality construction and cutting hygiene were all important factors.

I am completely satisfied with the JD L110 automatic 17.5 Kohler 42 2blade. It is all the things I wanted plus very fast, very husky, yet nimble enough for my wife to feel comfortable using it.

Personal opinion after shopping for this more than for anything I can recall including vehicles.

This is a lot of mower for the money and I think for the cub cadet, it is overpriced.

Mark

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Bermuda Ken

06-21-2004 10:46:02
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 Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to bill, 06-21-2004 08:59:03  
Buy a Cub Cadet. It is a better built machine than Brand X. With the larger mower deck you'll get finished faster too!



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tim

06-23-2004 05:32:02
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 Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to Bermuda Ken, 06-21-2004 10:46:02  
cub cadet made by MTD, there in the same class of lawn mowers as Murray and those mowers you throw away after a few years of use.



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JP

06-21-2004 17:05:19
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 Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to Bermuda Ken, 06-21-2004 10:46:02  
If I was gonna spend that kind of cash, I would look at a good zero turn.Not overpriced ones, just good ones. Ariens/Gravely has their homeowner series with a 15hp 40 deck for 2499.00, 17hp 40" 3099.00
21hp 48" deck for 4099.00. They all have fabricated, welded 10ga decks, not stamped steel as all Cubs, John Deeres, Toro consumer mower, Simplicity, you name it. Ariens/Gravely has the heaviest, strongest deck of any homeowner mower made.Personally, I would not have a new Cub(MTD) or a new JD. When deere quit maiking the 318, they quit making tractors, they are all now overpriced, green, AYP/MTD type tractors. Used to sell Deeere, loved them, we sold more parts for Deere than other mower we sold. Would I have one??? No. I am done ranting now. I just hate to see someone buy something for the paint color or name instead of the quality of the tractor.

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txblu

06-23-2004 06:15:21
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 Re: Re: Re: Cub Cadet vs. John Deere in reply to JP, 06-21-2004 17:05:19  
I paid $1795 for my L110 and love it. Have gone over it thoroughly and it is well made and runs like a top.

I looked at zero turns and they were too fat to get around my shrubs, cost a ton of money, and takes 2 hands. My Deere takes one hand (other for my beverage of choice) and have a place to store the can when finished.

I shopped longer and harder for this mower than anything that I can remember. So I know what's out there.

Mark

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