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Dan

08-26-2003 07:15:37




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My parents have a 782 Cub with a Kohler kt17 engine that is burning oil bigtime. The local shop says that it's not worth rebuilding, but I'm skeptical. They said they could do it for $2000.

They do want to give her $700 for it on trade, and I think that they may want to rebuild it and resell it.

Do you think that it would be better rebuilding it or just buying a new kt17 engine for $16-1700 and paying to have it installed? Or is there a better engine to put in it?

Thanks,

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max

08-31-2003 21:56:22




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 Re: Cub Cadet 782 in reply to Dan, 08-26-2003 07:15:37  
i think you should check out the briggs and stratton vanguard or the kohler command for a retrofit into your 782. these engines are modern ohv design and are significantly cheaper to buy than $2000. this figure sounds to me like the dealer was trying to make his next boat payment off your mother and dad. try tulsa engine warehouse and small engine warehouse before you committ to a local rebuild. The KT- 17 does not have that good of a reputation anyway. im not sure, but you should consider the expense of replacing the electric clutch if you retrofit in an engine that is not compatible with the kt-17 clutch that you already have. these can be as much as 3 or 4 hundred

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SHANNON@CUB COUNTRY UNLIM

08-27-2003 19:32:16




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 Re: Cub Cadet 782 in reply to Dan, 08-26-2003 07:15:37  
DAN,I HAVE A 982 CUB SITTING IN MY GARAGE THAT BELONGS TO A LOCAL FARMING OPERATION,BOY DRAINED OIL OUT IN FALL FORGOT TO PUT OIL IN SPRING AND FIRED IT UP,WELL YOU KNOW CONSEQUENCES OF THAT.IT HAS A 20 HP ONAN WITH RODS KNOCKING,ENGINE COST AT SMALLENGINE WAREHOUSE $1,275.00.. IF YOUR TRACTOR IS DECENT I WOULD GO WITH ENGINE REPLACEMENT KEEPING OLD ENGINE FOR IT'S PARTS (YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU MIGHT NEED FROM IT,STARTER,COIL,CARB,ETC.) JUST MY .02 WORTH.

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R.J. Stone

08-27-2003 18:53:54




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 Re: Cub Cadet 782 in reply to Dan, 08-26-2003 07:15:37  
Dan first thing is first.take into consideration the condition of the rest of the mower if you have any recent repairs to the rest of the tractor
(like recent deck work, hydro work etc.) and if the rest is still in very good shape than i say go with a rebuild or a cheaper engine swap my expierience is sometimes it is better fixing what you have if the new mower payment doesnt sound good. Bottom line there are several ways to look at it good points and bad points cub 782 still have a good resale value in good running working cond. and if you have a soft spot for older cubs red and white then you own a piece of history,my two cents worth sorry to ramble on.

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KURT (mi) again

08-27-2003 08:31:20




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 Re: Cub Cadet 782 in reply to Dan, 08-26-2003 07:15:37  
Kohler engine new, for a 782 Cub Cadet is $1650



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KURT (mi)

08-27-2003 08:27:06




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 Re: Cub Cadet 782 in reply to Dan, 08-26-2003 07:15:37  
Go to smallenginewarehouse.com they sell new engines. it is in Indiana. You should be able to buy a new Kohler engine for $1000 or so I would think.



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Jim S.

08-27-2003 06:02:02




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 Re: Cub Cadet 782 in reply to Dan, 08-26-2003 07:15:37  
Well, from here it looks like you can go 3 ways:

1.) Trade it in for the $700. That seems like a fair trade-in value, since 782s with blown engines can be had far cheaper than that. And yes, he will fix it and resell it. That's what the biz is all about.

2.) Have it rebuilt or rebuild it yourself. Tim W. about addressed that one.

3.) Re-engine it with a Magnum 18. See the link. This engine will have an oil filter, which is the only possible mod needed to your 782 to get it to fit. That is an easy deal to fix up. Popping in one of these is not very hard to do, if you want to do it yourself.

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Bill

08-26-2003 19:24:05




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 Re: Cub Cadet 782 in reply to Dan, 08-26-2003 07:15:37  
$2000. seems awful high to rebuild the engine; but then, I don't know what all needs done either. In my opinion you would be better geting a new one as you would at least have factory warranty - otherwise you are depending on the dealer to back up rebuild. Really sound to me like they don't really want the rebuild job so they just gave you a high estimate. May also want to check around some other shops for price - just remember, sometimes you get what you pay for. Hope this helps.

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Tim W

08-26-2003 16:23:40




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 Re: Cub Cadet 782 in reply to Dan, 08-26-2003 07:15:37  
Dan, I'm rebuilding a kt-17 now. I'm no mechanic and I have some website forum members( www.ihregistry.com) expertise. They are not that big a deal to re-build,I take my time, don't get in a hurry and ask questions. The service manual is free as a download from Kohlerengines and is a big help. Parts, especially pistons are high, but if you have any good contacts you might get a price break here and there. So far I have $500. plus in parts, some are not engine related, but are re-build costs(some drive train parts). Mine had 2300 hours on it and the crank and cylinder jugs were well within wear tolerances, but the pistons were shot.
Hope this gives you some comparison options.

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