Bolens 1250 timing

13fx

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This last fall I bought a bolens 1250 with a plow for snow removal. When I bought it it ran well when it was 70+ outside but would have problems starting below that and would not start at all when it would get down in the 40s. I took it in to a shop to get the carb rebuilt, however the shop mechanic told me that the carb was beyond rebuilding. I ordered a nos carb and installed it and was able to use it to plow snow even when the temp was single digits. Problem is, that I have to choke it to get it to start, and then run it with about half choke. With it running on half choke it emits black smoke and is very touchy about just where the choke is. I've since taken the carb apart, cleaned/inspected bit found nothing, pit it back together and had the same results. I no longer believe that the issue is with the nos carb but instead with the timing. I tried setting the timing today, but without any luck. When I set the points at the widest opening to .23 the timing mark on the flywheel isn't even visible in the timing cutout. when I go to check the gap off the mark, the flywheel has to be retarded about 2" and the pushrod that rides the cam isn't at the highest point yet. Has anyone here had this problem and if so how did you fix it? Forgot to mention, the tractor has the Wisconsin s12d in it

This post was edited by 13fx on 02/14/2023 at 05:15 pm.
 
(quoted from post at 18:12:35 02/14/23) This last fall I bought a bolens 1250 with a plow for snow removal. When I bought it it ran well when it was 70+ outside but would have problems starting below that and would not start at all when it would get down in the 40s. I took it in to a shop to get the carb rebuilt, however the shop mechanic told me that the carb was beyond rebuilding. I ordered a nos carb and installed it and was able to use it to plow snow even when the temp was single digits. Problem is, that I have to choke it to get it to start, and then run it with about half choke. With it running on half choke it emits black smoke and is very touchy about just where the choke is. I've since taken the carb apart, cleaned/inspected bit found nothing, pit it back together and had the same results. I no longer believe that the issue is with the nos carb but instead with the timing. I tried setting the timing today, but without any luck. When I set the points at the widest opening to .23 the timing mark on the flywheel isn't even visible in the timing cutout. when I go to check the gap off the mark, the flywheel has to be retarded about 2" and the pushrod that rides the cam isn't at the highest point yet. Has anyone here had this problem and if so how did you fix it? Forgot to mention, the tractor has the Wisconsin s12d in it

This post was edited by 13fx on 02/14/2023 at 05:15 pm.

When the points JUST BREAK the timing marks should line up.

If I am understanding you correctly, I think you are trying to find the timing mark when the points are fully open to 0.023''?

(Spark occurs at the instant the points open/''break''.)

https://www.pittauto.com/customer/piauel/pdf/Wisconsin_S10_S12_S14_Repair_Manual.pdf

See page #12 at the link above (.pdf page 15).

You can substitue an Ohmmeter for the battery-powered conductivity tester they are using.
 
When I had taken the breaker
cover off the points were set
well below .23 when they were at
the widest gap. I didn't bother
to check, bit I'm guessing
somewhere around .18 when I set
the points gap at .23 I couldn't
get the tractor to run anymore.
I must have bumped my head
because the next time I set it
off the timing mark, even though
as you say that should be the
break point where the timing
light fires. In the morning when
the battery is charged I'm going
to reset the points again and
see if maybe I just had the
feeler gauge cocked or somethin.
 
Yes, you want the points to open/break just as the timing mark aligns with the pointer. Do it like shown in the pdf and the motor will like it. Wisconsin motors are
touchy about timing. Make sure the float level in the carb is da#m close too. When you get things set right a Wisconsin motor normally starts fairly easy and runs pretty
good. You might need to experiment with the float level a bit though to find the sweet spot the motor likes. Occasionally by the book isn't what the motor likes. You
will just have to tinker a bit.
 
You cannot adjust the carb using the
choke! That setting will not work for all
speeds.
Quit fooling with ignition!
You need to adjust the main jet half turn
out to richen but with the choke off.
Fine adjust as needed to run smooth
without black smoke.
 
Good evening, RogerinIowa: I think it is too late to say "don't work on the ignition". I think he already has. The ignition needs to be put back where it was, THEN adjust carb as you said.
.
Dennis M. in W. Tenn.
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