kohler parts supersedes

Don B.

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Used to be you could go to the Kohler website and look up parts for any engine they ever made. Even if the parts weren't made any longer, at least you could get a part number. And it would show the previous parts that were equivalent, that had been superseded to that application, and also if there were any new numbers that came out after that version of a part. Back to when the parts had an "A" prefix etc.
Now a days you go to Kohler website and they take you to the plumbing side not the engines.
And when you do finally get to "Kohler engines", it's like a sales clinic on the current offerings ONLY. Like they never made a K series or a Magnum. even though those were the bread and butter, the very engines that gave kohler its reputation whose laurels the modern crap are falling back onto. but I could find nothing of parts lists for the K or the M series. What happened to putting in a part number and getting a list of engines that a given part would fit?

I bought a OEM genuine Kohler 0.010 under piston/ring set from EPay and when I saw the ad it was for the part number that I was looking for. But I went thru the checkout and the details of teh sale said I bought a different number, and i am trying to figure out if the one the sales detail says I bought is the same (but superseded version) as what I am after, the number that they say I bought does not come up in any search, of any kind, anywhere. and I asked before I bought, whether this was a genuine OEM Kohler piston and rings and they replied that yes it is.
 
Don, have you tried Jack's Small Engine. You should be able to find what parts list you need by Engine model number. I am curious about the "under sized" piston and ring set, are you having the engine sleeved to a smaller size?
 
oops I meant 0.010 over, sorry. I have looked at Jacks, and they only show 1 part number for OEM piston and rings in that size, but I know that over the years Kohler superseded and reassigned different numbers for the same part over the years, if I find a deal on Ebay I would like to know what other P/Ns would work, Jacks doesn't give that like the Kohler site used to.

In fact I have been on their (Kohler's) latest rendition of a website and it isn't what it used to be, it sucks now. Even more so when they ask for a zip code and they say "zip code not found/not valid" and you cannot go any farther like they did just like a half hour before I came here asking if one of you guys might have the info I am wanting....

While I am on here, I have a piston coming from Small Engine Warehouse for my latest overhaul, and there was some confusion on the PN that I am getting. Before I I hit the "buy it now" button they said I was getting the PN that Jacks says I need (used their site for reference before I bought it) Then, after I made the buy in the "order details" it said that I bought something different. and what that said, gave me a PN that doesn't come up as a good number "anywhere". The closest I come up with (1 digit changed) is a 0.010 piston that is the new style Mahle piston rather than the old style Kohler like I THOUGHT I was buying. I remember on another Kohler overhaul from a few years ago; I can use either both "old style" or both "new style" together and they can actually be mixed one way, but not the other way (either new style rod/old style piston or vise versa but I cannot remember which) Looking up via Jacks, all of the "new style" are NLA but some of the "old style" are still around.

these older PN's I am after are all for the "old style".... Does anyone here have info on other Kohler PN's would interchange with 47-874-13s? (10-over piston and ring set for a K321)
 
I can only sympathize. I recall a few years back, I was working on a Kohler Command twin that had 1 update valve cover and 1 original valve cover on it. I had no problem finding the update valve cover gasket everywhere, but somehow there was no way to look up the original gasket for the other cover anywhere. I ended up calling our distribuitor for help.

And that old valve cover gasket was still available. (One is black, the other is yellow and they don't interchange. You have to have the correct gasket for your cover.)

My guess is someone at Kohler wrote a program that changed all the valve cover gaskets in all the computer files to the new # rather than actually fixing things where there was a part number trail back to the original part number. So it was as if that part had never existed.

Anyone ever read 1984 by George Orwell? It was Kinda the same thing. Whoever controls the data controls the history and controls the world.
 
'm not real up on this stuff. Is this what you want?
https://maverickmowersupply.com/515270-piston-010-kohler-47-874-13-s?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI44j4jcrR2QIVCJJpCh3boAT9EAQYBCABEgKK9PD_BwE
 
yeah Greg, that's what I was after. and what I thought I bought on Ebay. a genuine OEM one, not Chinese aftermarket. But then when I went thru EPay checkout, the "details" said I bought a different piston, which did not make sense to me. So I went and tried to get on the Kohler site to see if what the ad says and what the bill says I am getting are the same part or not.... the Kohler site used to be really good with such info but now I get 10 hits (maybe more) for the plumbing side for every hit I get for the engine side of things..... and when I did FINALLY get into the Kohler engines site it now looks more like a gimmicky sales-pitch page than a helpful customer service site like it once was.
 
Last summer I had someone rebuild my K321. When I got it back he gave me receipts with every part, and part number listed. I can't find those receipts any where now. If I lost them, I am gonna be pizzed. I think he bought most things through Stens Parts Co. On their site, apparently you have to be a member to look up any parts.
 
This is what is on my receipt. https://www.powerequipmentparts.com/page/search-results/?search_query_adv=785-364
 
yeah that is an aftermarket part number. I know you can get aftermarket part numbers from pat's small engine, or jacks, or Tulsa Engine warehouse websites etc... I have done a handful of these older kohler engines, and have yet to run anything BUT a genuine OEM replacement piston in whatever oversize the engine at hand requires, so far I have not yet needed one more than 10-over.
I have a M14 and a pair of K341s (16hp) to go thru after I get this K321 back.... of those I may just do one K341 for now, as my other 341 is still running on a tractor (albeit tired, the 341 I have on the garage floor is off of an identical tractor and is meant to replace that one so I can rebild it eventually, if that makes any sense)
I have been leery of aftermarket pistons and rods..even though they cost less than OEM. will need the info I am after as I get into those engines so I can watch Ebay for a deal on what parts those engines will take.....
anyone need a std piston (aftermarket) for a K301??? Got one here brand new that I didn't use.....

I used to have an old microfish reader and cards at my parents' house, have to see if they are still there.... just remembered that.... the old part numbers that supersede might be buried in there. been so long, I forgot about that thing.
 

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