Lance Skene

Tom Arnold

Well-known Member
Regarding that 190 CASE you are pondering.

It is a bit of a Frankentractor. IMO, someone has assembled it for the single purpose of rotary tilling. The engine is a later model Kohler with a starter motor. It should have a starter/generator in order to be correct. I suspect that the PTO clutch is no longer there, so that negates the use of any belt driven attachments. Someone has added an aftermarket oil filter and also a hydraulic cylinder and control valve to raise and lower the tiller. Of course, the yellow John Deere seat is pure blasphemy. Restoration would demand that seat to be burned in an exorcism ritual during a full moon. An aftermarket seat pan and seat cushions are available from Jim Daenzer. IMO, the rear PTO valve is fitted with a non OEM Flow Control Valve. I don't recall ever seeing one with a lever control in this application. Normally, those valves have a rotary dial. However, this one could have been something a CASE dealer installed during a repair.

The tiller looks correct, along with the linkage. It appears that a the steering wheel cap, along with all the side panels for the hood are missing. Steve Guider can supply aftermarket units along with a correct exhaust system. Overall, this is a good find because the 190's are getting a bit harder to find these days and one with the tiller and optional rear PTO kit is even harder to find. It all comes down to the asking price.
 

Ya thx Tom, Ive been learning alot quick about these 190s.... did a search on the CaseColt forum last night and read thru 6 pages of posts on similar tractors.... the current owner knows even less about it, he apparantly bought it auction a couple years ago. I think his asking price is thru the roof but I could use that K341 in a Ford LGT or Massey 1650 that I have and look for an earlier K301 with a start/gen to put in the Case.

Ive been texting with the owner and he seems glad to hear any info I pass along but Im probably talking myself out of it unless he comes down in price.... but ya never know, I might at least go for a bike ride and look at it next weekend.
 
I would agree if the tractor was price in US dollars. A few years ago, I purchased a 2712 COLT with the tiller, PTO setup, tire chains and utility blade for $600.00 US. My COLT is the same as that 190
essentially. When you factor in the exchange rate of $1.30 C to $1.00 US, the adjusted price for my tractor today is $780.00. But I also have to include the costs involved to drive 7 hours round trip to
retrieve that tractor from the border crossing and the $100.00 US in cash that I paid a US friend to bring it across the border. My point is.... that asking price is not as unreasonable as it appears on the
surface. It all depends on the circumstances. Old CASE tractors are hard to find in Canada and even harder to find out west, where they typically command a premium price. So if you really want it,
don't lose it over chump change. It may be years before you ever see one similarly equipped. And what you were reading on my old CCI forum are USA experiences, not Canadian.
 

Ya that was the CCI forum I was looking around in, and most of the folks were in the states. Typically around here old garden tractors dont usually sell too fast, unless there are listed fairly cheap, but alot of time they arent cheap so the ads will run for months and/or even be re-posted, especially the tractors that seem popular on the forums. Ive often watched ads for several weeks and then gone and bought the tractor for a fraction of the asking price. The most recent example is a Cub Cadet 126, those are the third lowest production model in the IH built CC lineup, it was a "Running when parked" machine that included deck, tiller, and snowblower, its 99% complete and original. The ad originally started at $500 and was reduced to $400 after a few weeks, after a few more weeks I went and bought it for $150.

Theres occasional exceptions but generally old garden tractors are not hard to find at a good price around here, Ive managed to find several and Im a cheap SOB. Right now Ive got a couple old Sears SS and ST, Ford LGTs, MF1650, Cub Loboy, MTD960, JD110s.... I like old tractors but they dont sell well, but I cant fix newer machines fast enough, a 2000 Craftsman at $800 wont last 3 days here right now.
 

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