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model 09jc3336 serial number 2447 what year is this tractor it has a 16 hp Koehler and a Johnson work horse front end loader I believe it may be a lgt 165
 

Cant say without a pic, the LGT165 were built by Jacobsen from 1972 to 1976, those are known as the 'Open side' tractors. Then they were built by Gilson from 1977 to 1983 and are known as 'Closed sided' The Johnson loader can be mounted on either model and works well with the Fords foot controlled hydro.

Im a fan of the Open side tractors and have had several, still have an LGT 100 which a 10hp Kohler and a Peerless 4 speed transaxle.
 
The model number indicates it is 1977 or later LGT-165.
I don't have a Ser. No. reference sheet so I can't tell you what year it is.
However, I have two LGT-165s, one is model 3336 (Ser.#8756 with a 1977 Kohler engine, and another model #3337 Ser. #6018166 which has a 1983 Kohler engine.
The LGT series tractors were built by Jacobsen from '71 up thru some time in 1980 or so, after which Ford tractors were built by Gilson. The Jakes are far superior to the Gilsons!
The Jake built tractors were equipped with "closed sides" from some time in the mid 70s. At that same time, they stopped welding the engine crankcases directly to the frames and used rubber isolators instead.
The Jake built LGT series tractors are very well built and durable. I am a huge fan.....can you tell? LOL
The one exception might be the steering boxes which do sometimes go bad.
A lot of people do not know that there is a grease fitting on the bottom of the steering box. Occasional greasing will probably help in avoiding problems in this area.
 
Hi Brian, can this be right? "they stopped welding the engine crankcases directly to the frames and used rubber isolators instead. " I would have thought bolting directly but welding that makes for a pretty permanent engine installation. I know very little about Jacobson so am curious.
GB in MN
 
(quoted from post at 18:30:04 02/28/16) Hi Brian, can this be right? "they stopped welding the engine crankcases directly to the frames and used rubber isolators instead. " I would have thought bolting directly but welding that makes for a pretty permanent engine installation. I know very little about Jacobson so am curious.
GB in MN
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Well, if you think about that era.....chain saws were beginning to have engines isolated from the handles and had quieter mufflers as well.
It was the time when it became obvious that vibration could
contribute to carpal tunnel syndrome and prolonged exposure to certain loud decibel levels from small engines and such could contribute to hearing loss.
The mufflers on garden tractors were becoming much quieter than before and the other noises from the engine were also diminished by installing the side covers.
The side covers were blamed (maybe wrongfully?) for poor engine cooling so many wound up being removed.
I got the engine covers with both my LGT-165s but they were not on the tractors and are in excellent condition.
BTW, a few years ago I saw on a Ford Ranger site where a guy made a beautiful hood scoop for his Ranger from an LGT series engine side cover. If you look at one, you will see how it would lend itself to that!
 
Oops my bad, yes Jake did build the 'Closed Side' model for a few years before Gilson.

Its not actually the 'Crankcase' thats welded to the frame but rather just the 'Oil Pan', the rubber mounts began during the open side years either '75 or '76

I have a Kohler engine chart that I can use to date the engine by its serial # if that helps.
 
Its not actually the 'Crankcase' thats welded to the frame but rather just the 'Oil Pan', the rubber mounts began during the open side years either '75 or '76

Yep....I meant oil pan!!
 
Hi guys thanks for informing me on that, it doesn't seem like the thing to do but mfg did some different things and still do, I've had a couple of Gilson / M Wards GT's and they had the front axle bolster as part of the B&S oil pan plus they had eight (8) bolts mounting the oil pan to the frame along with a couple of tabs on each side of the pan that slides into slots in the frame boy I guess they didn't want the engine coming out.
GB in MN
 
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