106 cub cadet or 224 case sleeve hitch?

jr1983

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I have one of each of these machines and am
looking to put a sleeve hitch/3point (either way is
fine) on one of these machines. Would prefer a
factory setup. I am very familiar with the pros and
cons of both machines and feel that either will pull
my plow and other gardening attachments easily.
Which would be easier to put a lift on? I am not
above a Manual lift but would prefer hydraulic. I
have seen electric ones for the cub I am not sure the
power and how reliable these are. Which would be
the machine I should be looking for a hitch for? The
case will be a repower of some sort and tbe cub is
restored but has no creeper gear.
 
The category 0 three point lift for Cub Cadets is available and relatively simple to install.
http://www.xtrememotorworks.com/Parts%20Catalog/Cub%20Cadet%20Parts%203%20Point.htm

The Case, not so much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SPIhpyK-fI
 
If you own a CASE 224, then it will have hydraulic attachment lift for the mower deck. Go and find a used Sleeve Hitch for a 200 Series CASE and spend an hour to install it. As long as it is complete, it only takes 4 bolts to attach it to the trans-axle. There will be a lift arm that connects the hitch to the bell crank on the right side of the tractor that lifts the mower deck. You must remove the deck from the tractor, to use the hitch.

CASE did NOT make a 3 point hitch for the 200 Series but Ingersoll did. You would need a COMPLETE HH-34 three point hitch kit. Expect to pay $550.00 and up for one, compared to $150.00 for a Sleeve Hitch. A re-powered CASE is not a good idea. CASE chose the Kohler K and M Series engines for their superior torque, which is what you need to pull a plough. The lightweight aluminum engines cannot match the brute pulling power of the Kohler. If your tractor still has the K-321 under the hood, then rebuild it.
 
At this point I'm leaning towards a 25 hp 3 cylinder Mitsubishi diesel. It is in a golf course greens mower but I think I have it bought. Im thinking torque will not be a problem. Ive seen sleeve hitch for a case. If it is that easy to install then ill try to go that direction. Thanks.
 
Tom I talked to you about a vertical shaft conversion a few posts ago. You talked me out of that so I figured more torque than the k series couldn't hurt.
 
OK... now let me talk you out of the diesel. There is not much room in the engine compartment of a 224. When Ingersoll put a 3 cylinder diesel into the 4118D and 3118D models, they had to make a longer hood for it. This necessitated making a special snow caster with an extended frame Presumably the diesel you are looking at is water cooled. If so, then installing a PTO clutch on the front of diesel is next to impossible which means you won't be able to cut grass or blow snow. You will also have expensive issues with adapting the hydraulic pump to the diesel. It is your tractor and your money but so far I have yet to see a single conversion along these lines turn out to be as successful as just performing a simple engine rebuild. Even when you are done, few people will want to buy your tractor. You will far more into it then you will ever get out of it. I suspect that you will have to butcher the hood, change much of the wiring and make a lot of custom items.
 
(quoted from post at 16:44:35 12/20/15) Tom I talked to you about a vertical shaft conversion a few posts ago. You talked me out of that so I figured more torque than the k series couldn't hurt.
agree with Tom, stay with the kohler , the 14 and 16 hp share the same basic block , so drop in the 16 hp and to get a couple more ponies install a cam from an 18 hp over head motor.
 
Length wise I think im good. Between engine and tractor I will have $100 invested and the coupling for the pump will not be a problem. Im not going to put a kohler back in the thing. That said im not going to modify it to where I can't put it back either.
 
OK... I look forward to reading how you went about this along with a full array of photos. Good luck with the project.
 
Im not trying to start a p**** match with my opinions of a kohler in a case. I just have never had any good experiences with them. That said i also despise hydrostatic drive with the exception of a case. This once again is just my opinion. My first problem will be if I actually get this engine bought for $50. The next will be the height. The only way I can think this will work is to put the radiator facing straight up over the top of the engine parallel with the hood. I believe height will be my big concern but it looks like it will work. I think if I take the engine mounting plate out of it and fab a new one it will work. That being said the fifty for the engine if it won't work in this it will will work for somthing else and if this won't pan out with the criteria I said I will admit and tell everyone. Its not a huge problem if ive got to go a different way. In the end if I cant do anything else that doesn't require messing up what could be a good machine I will either put a harbor freight engine in and not hook up the deck clutch which I won't be using anyway or rebuilding the kohler repainting it and selling it. I have a lot of ideas but I won't screw up a good machine over it.
 
JR, I have a Case 444 that I repowered with a Kohler K341 AQS engine from a Cub Cadet. The PTO clutch and hydraulic pump mount just like they did on the K321 14 HP that was original. I used a combination of the sheet metal from the 14 HP and 16 HP Kohler engines to put it back together. It looks stock, except for a larger exhaust pipe than the 14 HP. I have a sleeve hitch on it and run a 42" Case tiller with it. It has more than enough power, even with the engine at less than full throttle to run the tiller. The only weak point in my opinion on the Kohler K series engines is that the balance gears can become worn and take out the engine block if run indefinitely, and also, since they depend on an oil dipper for lubrication, if this engine is run extensively on inclines, it could cause a lower end failure, expecially if the engine is low on oil. I have a zero turn mower with a Kohler Command Pro 25 engine, and I like the torqey feeling of the K series engine a lot better.
 

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