Gas Again!

jeffcat · May 20, 2014

Yoday I trailered my Husqvarna mower over to the gas station. For some reason I filled it with regular instead of Hi-test. In the back yard I unloaded and started to mow. Everything was fine for about five minutes and then the twin V briggs engine started to stutter and carry on. WELLL I drove over to my tool cart and added a squirt of Star-tron. Started her back up and about three minutes latter everything was OKEY DOKEY. Last time I fill this machine with regular!!!! Gotta love that Star-tron!!

Anonymous-0 · May 22, 2014

They're starting to have ethanol-free high test gas around here, the NY/Pa border. Valero is one brand. Keep your eyes open! Good luck! joe

MNGB · May 22, 2014

(quoted from post at 18:45:11 05/20/14) Yoday I trailered my Husqvarna mower over to the gas station. For some reason I filled it with regular instead of Hi-test. In the back yard I unloaded and started to mow. Everything was fine for about five minutes and then the twin V briggs engine started to stutter and carry on. WELLL I drove over to my tool cart and added a squirt of Star-tron. Started her back up and about three minutes latter everything was OKEY DOKEY. Last time I fill this machine with regular!!!! Gotta love that Star-tron!!

Really, are you selling that stuff? At over $100.00 a gallon one should never have to add gas to the rider all summer. I have 5 bigger farm tractor ranging in hp from 15 to 53 all have 87 octane with ethanol, 3 Husqvarna's 6 Suburbans a GT5000 and many other small engine all run on 87 octane with 10% ethanol all start and run fine none of them miss a beat have been using unleaded ethanol for over 30 yrs with no problems.
GB in MN

David G · May 22, 2014

Does sound like a commercial

jeffcat · May 23, 2014

All I can tell you is the stuff works for me. If you have a sqwint of an eye about this all...buy a bottle and try it. Maybe we get really cruddy gas in South Jersey. Don't know but it will remove the snail snot and I have very happy chainsaws too. Really try some. Jeffcat
PS if you want to grumble about "do you sell this stuf" kind of posts. Go to the [update on the geasey thing post. THAT costs a lot more than a bottle of star-tron. When you find something that works you like to spread the word.

Sprint 6 · May 23, 2014

I think a lot of fuel problems are caused by additives in fuel that are required on a regional basis and not by ethanol. I say this because I have a 8hp Briggs I adjusted to run E85 7 years ago. It is runs better and cleaner than it did on gas and I can store E85 over the winter and it is still just as good the next summer. Also, ethanol is basically corn whiskey. Ask yourself, does whiskey go bad in the bottle?

jimg.allentown · May 24, 2014

No, the corn whiskey doesn't go bad in the bottle, but the gas tank is not as well sealed as a whiskey bottle.
It is a proven fact that ethanol will absorb moisture from the air, and dilute itself. This was proven in a demonstration that my 9th grade science teacher did many years ago. At the beginning of the class, he took a small water glass and filled it to the brim with ethanol. By the end of the class, the glass was overflowing.
I also have observed that ethanol is hard on fuel lines and internal rubber parts of carburetors and fuel pumps.
In truth, the most in favor of ethanol are corn farmers. Follow the money.

Sprint 6 · May 24, 2014

I am in favor of ethanol and don't have any corn in the game nor am I a farmer. I am for a cleaner energy source that gives us independence and the individual the ability to produce his own fuel. That is the real reason behind the corporate and government resistance to mainstreaming of ethanol as fuel, people can make it themselves out of anything high in starch and avoid spending money on corporate produced fuel that is taxed to death. To quote your post, "Follow the money."

jimg.allentown · May 24, 2014

This one can be debated to death. There are good and bad points on BOTH sides. The real problem is that many engines are not tolerant of the ethanol due to soft parts that are attacked by the ethanol. The whole ethanol thing has been tried twice before in my lifetime, and both times it has failed. Without the government subsidies and support it is getting this time, it would fail again if consumers were given free choice.
I still don't like it, and I will continue to patronize ethanol free gas stations until there are no more.

WGM · May 24, 2014

What subsidies?

Indiana Ken · May 25, 2014

(quoted from post at 18:45:11 05/20/14) Yoday I trailered my Husqvarna mower over to the gas station. For some reason I filled it with regular instead of Hi-test. In the back yard I unloaded and started to mow. Everything was fine for about five minutes and then the twin V briggs engine started to stutter and carry on. WELLL I drove over to my tool cart and added a squirt of Star-tron. Started her back up and about three minutes latter everything was OKEY DOKEY. Last time I fill this machine with regular!!!! Gotta love that Star-tron!!

MSDS sheet lists the ingredients as:

> 95% Naphtha (Read as more than 95% naphtha)
< 0.5% Proprietary Organic Compounds (Read as less than 0.5% proprietary organic compounds)

This means it can be 100% naphtha. You might want to try straight naphtha which costs much less. It is typically available in hardware stores for $15 +/- per gallon.

IH2444 · May 28, 2014

(reply to post at 23:54:43 05/24/14)

Yeah ethanol subsidies expired. 2 years ago I think.

Now growers of corn for ethanol just get the same subsidies that other corn growers get.

100 a gal for Startron? Maybe, but $7 worth of it lasts me about a year.
And when I use it in my gas the gas is fine for at least a year.

How much per gallon for Sea Foam, etc?

WGM · May 29, 2014

Again, what subsidies?

MNGB · May 29, 2014

(quoted from post at 05:40:27 05/29/14) Again, what subsidies?

The fact that we are forced to use it by the powers to be is a Subsidy. If it were a free open market ethanol would fall flat, I'm not saying we don't need an oxygenate in our fuel to help clean the air but if there was a choice as it should be then we would see how well ethanol would do.
GB in MN

IH2444 · May 29, 2014

(quoted from post at 13:47:25 05/29/14)

(quoted from post at 05:40:27 05/29/14) Again, what subsidies?

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The fact that we are forced to use it by the powers to be is a Subsidy. If it were a free open market ethanol would fall flat, I'm not saying we don't need an oxygenate in out fuel to help clean the but if there was a choice as it should be then we would see how well ethanol would do.
GB in MN

Yep if the demand dropped the price paid for corn would drop a lot as well. Making many farmers unhappy.

Bret4207 · May 30, 2014

(quoted from post at 17:17:26 05/29/14)

(quoted from post at 13:47:25 05/29/14)

(quoted from post at 05:40:27 05/29/14) Again, what subsidies?

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The fact that we are forced to use it by the powers to be is a Subsidy. If it were a free open market ethanol would fall flat, I'm not saying we don't need an oxygenate in out fuel to help clean the but if there was a choice as it should be then we would see how well ethanol would do.
GB in MN

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Yep if the demand dropped the price paid for corn would drop a lot as well. Making many farmers unhappy.

Your statement should be "...making many CORN farmers unhappy." I know that if the price of corn dropped this farmer would be quite happy. But then I'm raising livestock, not growing corn.

IH2444 · May 30, 2014

(quoted from post at 07:53:31 05/30/14)

(quoted from post at 17:17:26 05/29/14)

(quoted from post at 13:47:25 05/29/14)

(quoted from post at 05:40:27 05/29/14) Again, what subsidies?

Click to expand...

The fact that we are forced to use it by the powers to be is a Subsidy. If it were a free open market ethanol would fall flat, I'm not saying we don't need an oxygenate in out fuel to help clean the but if there was a choice as it should be then we would see how well ethanol would do.
GB in MN

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Yep if the demand dropped the price paid for corn would drop a lot as well. Making many farmers unhappy.

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Your statement should be "...making many CORN farmers unhappy." I know that if the price of corn dropped this farmer would be quite happy. But then I'm raising livestock, not growing corn.

Yes to be more specific. However many farmers raise corn.

but if the price of livestock feed dropped so would the price of livestock.
At least for the grower.

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