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Re: best cub to buy & why

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Maineman

11-15-2013 18:00:46
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Craig's list had a 446 in Dracut and a 442 in Biddeford I think both were $1200 with attachments.
I think I'd prefer the 442 with a single cylinder Kohler over the twin Onan. But, the 446 had a tiller.

Joe




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cowboy357

11-15-2013 19:33:26
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 Re: best cub to buy & why in reply to Maineman, 11-15-2013 18:00:46  
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Found the one in Biddiford, couldn't find the one in Dracut, could you post the link?

Thanks



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Maineman

11-16-2013 04:58:28
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 Re: best cub to buy & why in reply to cowboy357, 11-15-2013 19:33:26  
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Maineman said: (quoted from post at 19:00:46 11/15/13)
Craig's list had a 446 in Dracut and a 442 in Biddeford I think both were $1200 with attachments.
I think I'd prefer the 442 with a single cylinder Kohler over the twin Onan. But, the 446 had a tiller.

Joe


Found the one in Biddiford, couldn't find the one in Dracut, could you post the link?

Thanks[/

Its listed in the New Hampshire Craigslist.
Have 1986 tractor with augar. Runs good mower deck needs work . This thing is powerful. Could use new seat Email me. Mark

Location: dracut

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If that dosn't work, search for "Case 446 tractor" under farm and garden.

Sorry, I'm not good at posting links!

Joe
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OTP

01-22-2014 05:41:40
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 Re: best cub to buy & why in reply to Maineman, 11-16-2013 04:58:28  
Was there a sickle bar made to fit the 442?

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Tom Arnold

11-16-2013 05:33:38
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 Re: best cub to buy & why in reply to Maineman, 11-16-2013 04:58:28  
At $1200.00 asking, this one could be the bargain you have been waiting for.

The rear PTO kits bring $200 on e-Bay

The 3 pt hitches bring $400 or more

The F-26 Sleeve Hitch Adapter bring $150

The rototiller will bring $400 on its own.

So, not including the tractor and deck, there is $1150 in optional equipment.

No matter what condition the 1985 446 and deck are in, they are certainly worth the additional $50.00.

If this one is still around, you should check it out......FAST.

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cowboy357

11-17-2013 19:14:00
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 Re: best cub to buy & why in reply to Tom Arnold, 11-16-2013 05:33:38  
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I have more info on the 444 that has no spark, it ran last month, sat and the battery went dead, battery was charged but machine would not start, had no spark. nothing else done. The machine has a three point hitch a front snow blade has hydraulics front and rear, machine was repainted mower deck has not been on it in last 5 years, that's how long this owner has had it. He only used it a few times a year to pull a lawn sweeper, was given to him in lieu of of payment for work done.

Anyone know what thew electrical system on this motor is like if it had to be replaced? The serial # is 1411475* anyone know what model year that translates to?

I also have an email off to the person with the 446 in Dracut, waiting to hear back on that one, the Onan motor is a little scary compare to the Kohler single cylinder. Sounds like it would be expensive to repair.

I hope to look at these soon.

Any comments would be appreciated

Thanks

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Tom Arnold

11-17-2013 22:56:26
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 Re: best cub to buy & why in reply to cowboy357, 11-17-2013 19:14:00  
You are missing one digit in the PIN but my guess is that it is a 1988, the last year of manufacture for the 444's.

As I have said previously, a used 3 pt hitch will easily bring $400.00 on e-Bay, if not more. A rear PTO commands $200.00 on most days. A decent Utility Blade will bring $200.00 to $400.00.

Case used Kohler K engines and Ingersoll kept on using them until production of the 200 and 400 Series ended in 1988. In other words, the 444 you are looking at should have a K engine with points, condenser and coil. All are suspect when there is no spark but none of them are expensive to replace.

The fact that the tractor ran last month is meaningless. Unless it is running when you come to view it, you cannot assess the PTO clutch or any aspect of the engine. Perhaps the charging system isn't working. Perhaps the engine is so tired it must be rebuilt immediately. Perhaps it has a broken rod.

Sellers who are too lazy to get their tractor into running shape should not be rewarded with the same sort of money a running tractor would garner. A battery that is allowed to go dead and sit in that state, is a damaged battery that is on its way out. Even if it will take a charge, it will not charge to the same level as a new one.

Case tractors did not come with FRONT hydraulics but that is not to say that a previous owner couldn't have added them.

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cowboy357

11-18-2013 17:46:47
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 Re: best cub to buy & why in reply to Tom Arnold, 11-17-2013 22:56:26  
Well the person with the 446 in Dracut got back to me tonight, it's sold so I'm still looking!! I didn't look at the no running 444 yet maybe next weekend, the seller isn't available during the week.

So the search goes on.

Thanks All I'll keep you posted!



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cowboy357

11-23-2013 19:10:10
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 Re: best cub to buy & why in reply to cowboy357, 11-18-2013 17:46:47  

Can anyone tell me the difference between the High wheel Case ? Ingersoll and the small wheel machine? Is it just the wheels, or is there something different about the frame? Are the decks and other attachments the same?
What happens if you change the wheels on a small wheel machine?

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Tom Arnold

11-23-2013 21:15:48
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 Re: best cub to buy & why in reply to cowboy357, 11-23-2013 19:10:10  
Trying to convert a Lo Pro to a Hi Wheeler is an exercise in futility. Do not even attempt it. All you will do is destroy two tractors and end up with garbage that has little to no value.

It is more than just the back wheels. The axle shafts, drive motor, front axle, front spindles, tie rod, drag link, fenders, implement lift etc are all different. Even the basic frames are different due to the ground clearance.

Essentially the 38, 44 and 48 decks are interchangeable between the two Series providing you have the correct lift links that connect the rear of the deck to the implement lift. However, the 38" deck is not wide enough for the Hi Wheel models and the 48" deck is a bad choice on the ten HP 200's due to lack of HP to spin it while cutting thick or wet grass.

Just keep searching for a 444. Eventually you will spot one that was listed minutes earlier and you can jump on it before anyone else does.

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cowboy357

11-24-2013 05:20:48
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 Re: best cub to buy & why in reply to Tom Arnold, 11-23-2013 21:15:48  
Thanks

Tom that's what I was looking for!



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