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Allis/simplicity bevel gear box

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G1355

05-20-2013 13:46:32
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I know your suppose to put gear lube in a bevel gear box for the allis chalmers/simplicity models, but can you pump them full of grease? Will it hurt or not also has anyone tried. I have a seal going out, and don't wanna tear it apart. And I know if grease works I will pump it full and it will quit leaking.




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Bret4207

05-23-2013 04:23:41
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 Re: Allis/simplicity bevel gear box in reply to G1355, 05-20-2013 13:46:32  
The BGB itself is pretty simple as long as you can ID exactly which one you have. I have one I had to send to Sandy Lake because a PO had cobbed it together and nothing fit like the numbers said it would. Getting it all sandwiched back between the frame sections is the pain.



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Bret4207

05-22-2013 04:38:22
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 Re: Allis/simplicity bevel gear box in reply to G1355, 05-20-2013 13:46:32  
The biggest pain with repairing the BGB is the way it's all sandwiched together IMO. Taking pictures as you disassemble is a good idea.



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G1355

05-22-2013 05:10:42
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 Re: Allis/simplicity bevel gear box in reply to Bret4207, 05-22-2013 04:38:22  
Haven't pumped any in yet, gonna keep running it like it is for now. I've had one apart before, I thought it was pretty simple, not much to them, a couple shafts, three bearings, two gears and a few seals. That about it.



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Sprint 6

05-22-2013 04:12:53
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 Re: Allis/simplicity bevel gear box in reply to G1355, 05-20-2013 13:46:32  
I would use corn head grease. Regular wheel bearing grease will get cavities in it over time and the gears will start running metal to metal.



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Bret4207

05-21-2013 04:34:38
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 Re: Allis/simplicity bevel gear box in reply to G1355, 05-20-2013 13:46:32  
You can try the Lucas "seal sealer". I forget the correct name, but if anything will work, Lucas products will. Replacing the seal is the right way to do to it, but it is a pain to do. I would look into getting some JD Corn Head grease form a JD dealer if you want to try this. It's a real heavy oil type grease thats reputed to work in cases like yours.

Consider this- if you trash the BGB, you're going to be out a lot more time and money than fixing the seal will cost you. Those suckers can get expensive to fix right.

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Harvey 2

05-20-2013 15:15:31
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 Re: Allis/simplicity bevel gear box in reply to G1355, 05-20-2013 13:46:32  
You can pump it full, but don't put soo much that it locks up hydraulicly.



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G1355

05-20-2013 20:27:00
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 Re: Allis/simplicity bevel gear box in reply to Harvey 2, 05-20-2013 15:15:31  
What do you mean, how much should I put in, how would it lock up? It leaks slow now, but is getting worse the past two years



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Harvey 2

05-20-2013 20:48:07
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 Re: Allis/simplicity bevel gear box in reply to G1355, 05-20-2013 20:27:00  
When one pumps grease in a gear box till it is tight that is called hydraulic lock.
I don't know how to explain any better.
But if you put say 20 pumps of grease in it that should be sufficent.



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G1355

05-21-2013 05:08:51
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 Re: Allis/simplicity bevel gear box in reply to Harvey 2, 05-20-2013 20:48:07  
Alright, maybe I will try it,



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