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Traditional Farmer

04-12-2013 05:26:14
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Is this from real experience or something you read? I've pull hydros all over the place with no problem just need to pull them slow can't imagine ever being able to push one fast enough to hurt it.




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Bob

04-12-2013 08:07:27
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 Re: JD 314 in reply to Traditional Farmer, 04-12-2013 05:26:14  
Yes. Last one was a customer"s DEERE 420. Daughter ran it out of gas at the end of his lane, just before dark. Didn"t want to go to town for gas, and didn"t want it by the road overnight, so they towed it 50 or 75 feet. Quote @ DEERE was over $1500, I did it with used parts for quite a bit less. Wait "til you smoke one, you won"t want to try it again!



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Traditional Farmer

04-13-2013 05:37:27
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 Re: JD 314 in reply to Bob, 04-12-2013 08:07:27  
Pretty stupid with a Deere 420 and wonder if you know what you're talking about as a 420 does NOT have a hydo release as it has a neutral in the rear between high and low range to make it free wheel and it can be towed or pushed no problem.You sound like a BSer to me.



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Bob

04-13-2013 07:04:12
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 Re: JD 314 in reply to Traditional Farmer, 04-13-2013 05:37:27  
Call me whatever makes you feel better.

Bottom line is, if a Sundstrand hydro of that type has sat for any length of time, the oil has drained away from the hydraulic motor's "slippers" and swashplate and you can't move them very far before permanent damage is done.

WHY rick that?



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Traditional Farmer

04-13-2013 11:15:00
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 Re: JD 314 in reply to Bob, 04-13-2013 07:04:12  
So in other words the story about the 420 was totally made up.



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Bob

04-13-2013 11:54:44
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 Re: JD 314 in reply to Traditional Farmer, 04-13-2013 11:15:00  
No, Trad, it wasn't "made up". It DID happen and I repaired it. About ten years have passed and I MAY be wrong and it could have been a 400.

ANYHOW, it was a Deere tractor of that size, he towed it the length of his driveway after it was run out of gas, and the hydro motor piston "slippers" and swashplate were completely ruined/galled/blued from lack of lube.

In the Operator's Manuals, they state NOT to move these machines any great distance at all with the engines NOT running, and that is what I am stating. What the HE77 is your beef with me?

Am I wrong in cautioning someone asgainst doing something that will likely RUIN his tractor????

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Traditional Farmer

04-13-2013 17:07:34
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 Re: JD 314 in reply to Bob, 04-13-2013 11:54:44  
Well Bob my Beef is you're spouting a bunch a stuff you obviously have no first hand knowledge about.A 400 also has a neutral between the high/low in the rear so it too has NO release on the hydro because it doesn't need one and it can be pushed or towed no problem.I have personally pushed and towed (slowly) Ariens,Simplcitys and other garden tractors with no neutral but with a hydro release with no ill effects whatso ever.

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04-13-2013 21:51:23
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 Re: JD 314 in reply to Traditional Farmer, 04-13-2013 17:07:34  
Trad, Don"t need the education on the 400, as I own one. K?

And I"d venture to guess the folks at DEERE are also dumbasses in your mind for cautioning against moving the hydro tractors very far with the with the hydro free-wheeling valves depressed?



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