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Re: duals

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ShadetreeRet

03-19-2013 21:01:08
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Are they not available as a factory option? If not, you could cut steel pipe of the proper diameter and length and weld them together with straps of proper thickness to keep them from flexing, In other words make your own "spider". I know Sears used to have dual kits available for their Suburbans. Don't know if they are still available or how close they would come to fitting yours. Good luck.




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Tom Arnold

03-20-2013 04:35:30
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 Re: duals in reply to ShadetreeRet, 03-19-2013 21:01:08  
I have no problem understanding the logic behind duals and triples on full size Ag tractors. Soil compaction is a big issue in farming today.

What I have never understood is the logic behind duals on a garden tractor unless you are attempting to build a Minnie Me model of a full size tractor.

You cannot successfully plough a garden with duals because they keep your right rear wheel out of the furrow where it belongs. Soil compaction in a garden isn't an issue, either. Would anyone care to enlighten me? LOL

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Glassman66

03-22-2013 07:22:31
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 Re: duals in reply to Tom Arnold, 03-20-2013 04:35:30  
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My personal reasons are

#1 is looks, I just like the looks of them.

#2 is my trailers are parked where it gets pretty soft and can't get them out with a 2wd truck. The dual don't tear up the grass or make ruts as bad.
#3 traction, you get more traction when dragging heavy items.
#4 is stability when my kids drive them.


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Sprint 6

03-21-2013 06:21:46
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 Re: duals in reply to Tom Arnold, 03-20-2013 04:35:30  
If it is something he wants to do, doesn't matter if you like it or find it logical. He can do what he likes. Cub used to recommend duals for their sand trap drag to minimize tire tracks.

As for plowing, when farmers around here still plowed, they only ran a dual on the left so the right would stay in the furrow.



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Tom Arnold

03-21-2013 06:47:25
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 Re: duals in reply to Sprint 6, 03-21-2013 06:21:46  
Sprint, Try reading my post again. I was not asking about the OP's motives for wanting to install duals. I was asking about the rationale behind adding duals and my 2nd post should have clarified my intent. If the OP wishes to add duals to his tractor, then that is his personal choice. It was not my intent to interfere with that.

Thanks for telling me about the sand trap drag. I did not know that golf courses routinely used garden tractors for this purpose. Does anyone else know of other reasons behind manufacturer's offering dual wheel kits?

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danmcdonald

03-20-2013 09:54:44
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 Re: duals in reply to Tom Arnold, 03-20-2013 04:35:30  
Was always wondering that too?



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vernon in ks

03-20-2013 09:18:36
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 Re: duals in reply to Tom Arnold, 03-20-2013 04:35:30  
I'm guessing looks or ego Tom. lol



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Tom Arnold

03-20-2013 11:35:20
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 Re: duals in reply to vernon in ks, 03-20-2013 09:18:36  
I know that several manufacturers offered them as an option back in the 50's and 60's but I have to wonder about the reasoning behind it.

I can see the need for them if you are forced to mow grass cross-slope because they change the center of gravity. But are there other applications where duals would make life better? After all, you have to be conscious of those tires sticking out the sides of the tractor, all the time. From a mechanical aspect, duals put a lot of strain on the axle shaft/flange joint which is usually just welded together.

And once you start adding heavy counterweights to offset front mounted attachments, the strain is increased even more.

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Ed3

03-29-2013 13:48:56
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 Re: duals in reply to Tom Arnold, 03-20-2013 11:35:20  
The cub cadet IMHO has the strongest transaxle of any in its class.

You have to remember it was originally for a tractor the farmall cub

If you do happen to bust something you can allways install a dodge dart axle. And I just can't see how you would bust that setup -- something for a vehicle weighing several thousand more and 10x + the HP

Dam near indestructible

Duals look cool And get the tractor lugs -- they look better and defiantly have more traction

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