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Garden Tractors Discussion Forum

Re: Got it but need a little help

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Tom Arnold

11-07-2012 19:46:01

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A steering axle is a steering axle no matter whether it is on a motor grader or an Ag tractor or a garden tractor. It's purpose is to make the machine turn in the direction the Operator points it in.

The tires are expected to bite into the surface and turn the tractor with no slippage. Running Ag bar tread tires backward on steering axles that are not powered is a long established fact. No reputable tire company would mount them any other way.

If the front end of your tractor does not "push" when turning sharply in snow, then don't reverse them. If you find that it does push forward instead of turning immediately, then for all the effort it takes to swap them over, you just might want to give my suggestion a try.

Ask yourself this question. Can millions of users be wrong compared to one guy on this forum who claims to have experienced a different result?

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Traditional Farmer

11-08-2012 04:37:52

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 Re: Got it but need a little help in reply to Tom Arnold, 11-07-2012 19:46:01  
Go to a dealers lot ALL the 4WD tractors have the the front tires mounted the same as the rear.You need to come out of Mama's basement sometime.

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Tom Arnold

11-08-2012 07:56:34

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 Re: Got it but need a little help in reply to Traditional Farmer, 11-08-2012 04:37:52  
If you were half as smart as you think you are, you would know that this discussion is NOT about machinery with front wheel drive. On equipment with powered steering axles, the tires must be mounted the same as the rear tires.

On equipment that does not have a powered steering axle, the tires get mounted in reverse.

Perhaps you need to return to school to learning how to read and understand written English.

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Case Nutty 1660

11-08-2012 10:58:06

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 Re: Got it but need a little help in reply to Tom Arnold, 11-08-2012 07:56:34  
some guy's just don't get it Tom,, not worth the effort to explain as it seems he already knows all

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Traditional Farmer

11-08-2012 10:35:59

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 Re: Got it but need a little help in reply to Tom Arnold, 11-08-2012 07:56:34  
You still gotta steer a 4WD as most 4WD tractors are run in 2 WD much of the time.Actually 4WD drives needs them mounted backwards on the front if it has a loader because going into a pile of dirt the frontend comes up anyway and the tractor needs the traction on the front to get a grip to back out.Get Mom to bring you down a glass of warm milk and a couple of Prosac.

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11-08-2012 19:00:27

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 Re: Got it but need a little help in reply to Traditional Farmer, 11-08-2012 10:35:59  
Traditional farmer..... i was reading these forums and seen said you have a lot of garden tractors. I seen you said you had a lot of fords and simplicity's and wondered if you could post some pictures love looking at those. Thanks

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Tom Arnold

11-08-2012 13:27:43

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 Re: Got it but need a little help in reply to Traditional Farmer, 11-08-2012 10:35:59  
This sort of thing is pretty typical for Traditional Farmer, I'm afraid.

It shows up in quite a few of his posts. All forums have people like this that think they know what they are talking about but come up short all the time.

As you can see in his latest post, he is confused about which end of the tractor comes up when you are using a loader. That's pretty sad and very indicative of his lack of expertise. Hopefully his guardian is making sure he is being treated for his malady. He's so convinced he is right about this issue, he will argue that black is actually the new white.

In the meantime, I suggest that he be ignored until pronounced "CURED".

Oh.... and as for me...... Up until this summer, I owned SEVEN Champion road graders that were used for summer work as well as being on contract for snow clearing work in a major city. Over the course of my career, I have operated 4 wheel drive rubber tired loaders, many brands of skid steer loaders, tractor/loader backhoes, crawler loaders, crawler excavators, dozers, compaction equipment and chain trenchers as well as the graders. I have worked in road building, sewer and water main construction, home building and property development. After 50 years in the construction industry, I'm pretty sure I know which way the tread should face on machinery.

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Traditional Farmer

11-13-2012 05:16:44

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 Re: Got it but need a little help in reply to Tom Arnold, 11-08-2012 13:27:43  
I can see you're just the typical Internet BS'er
I've run and used all sorts of tractors for over 50 years.

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11-08-2012 15:40:12

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 Re: Got it but need a little help in reply to Tom Arnold, 11-08-2012 13:27:43  
Ya I agree with you. I have them on that direction for a reason. Got the snowblower all hooked up all that's left is to make the pulleys work. I will post pictures when it's all done, maybe a video to if it snows anxious to use it.

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Traditional Farmer

11-13-2012 05:19:04

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 Re: Got it but need a little help in reply to G1355, 11-08-2012 15:40:12  
Yep if you are doing dirt work or manure loading and have to get the frontend down hill the ability to back out with a load in the bucket is way more important than going forward pulling.

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