58 new major wont run hardly

The 58 new major that i have is giving me serious fits. I just bought this not to long ago and it didnt run quite right so i sent the injectors out to be cleaned. Two of them were sticking bad according to the mechanic. There good now. I put them in and tried to start it today after bleeding very well. Wouldn't start so i took a look at the injection pump and the timing was off. I reset it as to specs from manual and i fired up. Seemed to be running on all cylinders. Has alot of white fuel smoke at idle but idles decent. When you give it throttle it would pour the white smoke and takes forever to pick up rpm if it even does. I have took the pump inspection plate of for a brief period to see if everything was moving good and it is. I tested the vaccum governor like the book says to and it shows good. The adjuster for the injection pump that people so much like to crank up for more power has the safety wire cut like someone has messed with it before. I talked to a mechanic and he said it might just be to far out of adjustment for it to run right. So i messes with that a little and had no cignificant changes in the way it ran. Then it just got worse and would not change at all. I set it back to where it originally was and it runs terrible now. Takes a little shot of ether to get it to start. Wont run for more than a minute on its own. And wont even pull the tractor in first gear. What have i done what could be the problem. I would really appreciate and help you guys have. Thanks a lot

Seems to me like you may have to get your injector pump looked at by a pump person.

Those pumps are sensitive and if it were me I would be taking it to a pump place.

Kenneth

I shudder and cringe at the thought of using ether in any diesel engine.

Ether/quick start will wreck your engine

Kenneth

Hi Kenneth, I must say that yours is an often heard point of view, as with so called ether addiction, which I don't Fully subscribe to (There are deisels made with ether starts as part of the machine) However I do agree that it can have adverse effects if over used. However more importantly if your engine won't start without it then something is amiss and maybe seriously. That means you will probably have to continue using it and thats when its bad, because your initial problem is getting worse all the time. So the answer of course is sort the problem. Or accept the fact that things are unlikely to improve. MTF

I think your timing is out,being gutless seems to indicate, have you gone through that and rechecked.take the pipe off no.1 and turn over by hand,when it spurts ,check the calibrations on pump [matching] flywheel on 21 degs btdc [i think [check book]] and both valves on no.1 closed. thats a start.

BUT FIRST. check all valve GAPS.

Nathan T
Does your tractor have a Simm's injection pump?
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Brian

Thats very sound advice about the checking the valves. Depending on the exact year and pump part No the correct timimg can be sevral different positions between 19 and 29 degrees. To get the basic setting correct you will need to get the part No off the pump and then go from there. So here are the settings from my book: -
FMD up to engine No1308977 29 BTDC. FMD 1308977 to 1425096 26BTDC. FMD1425097 to 1481090 19BTDC. FPM1481091 to 1578885 23BTDC. FSM1578886 to 08B756397 23BTDC. These listed settings assume that it is still fitted with the original type of pumo as per factory and that it is vacuum governor. Hope this is of some help MTF

Yes its a simms pump. I think i found my problem the fiber drive coupler shows alot of wear when i reset the timing this last time i took up the slop in it and got it to run alot better so i think messing with it some more will get it running right. Will let ya know how it goes. Thanks

Shpuld deisel come out of the injector pipes but useng the hand pump or jsut if the engine is been turned over?