FORD BLUE PAINT UPDATE

Tim PloughNman Daley

Well-known Member
Yesterday I was at my local mom & pop auto parts store where I had some 8N Red paint mixed from John Smith's GM Centari Red (8N match) recipe back in September, 2001. I brought the FORD Blue paint codes with me to find out first if they were still valid. It turned out they are all still good numbers. I specifically asked about the Ford Equipment Dark Blue, p/n MX700790 and got a recipe printout and pricing. Their costs are $13.00 for 1 pint; 1 quart is $38.51; and 1 gallon is $137.43. The minimum requirement is 1 pint and that will make up 3 rattle cans. Rattle cans are $11.99 each. I am going to start with three rattle cans first to see if it is exactly what I want. I'll report back after the with my findings. The other codes are valid as well.

Tim *PloughNman* Daley(MI)
 

Odd that the larger volume containers cost more per ounce than the pint. The gallon price is cheaper than 4 quarts, but 2 pints is cheaper than a quart and 8 pints is cheaper than a gallon, both by a long shot.

$13.00 for 1 pint x 2 pints = 1 quart ($26.00)
$13.00 for 1 pint x 8 pints = 1 gallon ($104.00)
 
I was left with some confusion after your last post. Are you working on a pre or post 1965 tractor? Some have said that the pre 65 blue is different than the post 65 blue. I'm not so sure of that.

The can that I bought from my NH dealer says 1963-1999, and it looks identical to the blue in my 1963 6000 literature. I paid $18 for the quart.
 
"The can that I bought from my NH dealer says 1963-1999, and it looks identical to the blue in my 1963 6000 literature. I paid $18 for the quart."

It does, but years ago it didn't.

Probably a cost reduction to reduce stock numbers.

Dean
 
So what's the overall consensus on this board then? Is the '63 - '65 blue different from the '65 - '99 blue? When I put my '63 6000 Commander lit next to my '65 4000-5000 lit, they look the same to me. Maybe the difference (if it exists) is between UK and USA manufacture?
 
So what's the overall consensus on this board then? Is the '63 - '65 blue different from the '65 - '99 blue?

Absolutely. The 62-64 [i:8ff2a265dd][color=blue:8ff2a265dd][b:8ff2a265dd]Ford Tractor Blue[/b:8ff2a265dd][/color:8ff2a265dd][/i:8ff2a265dd] is a lighter shade of blue than the later 65-99 [i:8ff2a265dd][color=darkblue:8ff2a265dd][b:8ff2a265dd]Empire Blue[/b:8ff2a265dd][/color:8ff2a265dd][/i:8ff2a265dd].
 
My paint test of the 63-00 M1J-1639-A Ford Blue, against the NH Empire Blue at first showed the 1639 being a shade darker (not lighter)which would be correct but after it dried looked identical to the NH Empire Blue. I'm going to do another test today. I'm seeking the Ford Equipment Dark Blue 700790 but thought why not cover them all.


TPD
 

I don't have time for all this drama. I just take an unmolested part like the bottom of the battery box, clean it up and take it to the PAINT store and get it analyzed
 
No tractor Bern just some accessory parts and equipment. Just thought I'd cover the other codes while at it. Originally I had used some TISCO Ford Empire Blue, not knowing there were different shades. I recently discovered TISCO has two shades, TP360 and TP365 but don't recall which one I used and the empty can is long gone. That was the reason I started the search. I have a picture of the part I'm trying to get back to the Equipment Dark Blue and a photo of same part after I had first painted it black then went to the empire blue.

Tim P. D.
 
They look pretty much the same to me. If anything, the pre '65 tractors are maybe a tad darker, not lighter. Note that the two pages you see
here are from two different brochures.
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Pictures in old sales brochures are probably more prone to fading than the tractor paint itself, so comparing pictures from two different brochures probably isn't going to give you the exact original color of each.
 
I disagree. Put a tractor out in the sun for 50 years, and the paint will fade, especially any paint Ford ever used. As for the brochures, I
would agree somewhat if said pictures were on the front or back covers and exposed to sunlight laying on my desk, however these pics are on
the inside of the brochure, and have always been stored in a binder.
 

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