4000 diesel - Advice

Tom RS

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I'm not familiar with Ford tractors at all but know of one for sale.
It is a diesel Industrial 4000, 1960s. Has a bucket, chains, rear weight, no PTO or 3 pt.
It gets pretty cold where I'm at and I'd want it to plow snow so it needs to start with only occasional use.
It does have a block heater.
It looks very rough but apparently runs good. Has some hydraulic leaks, and the new alternator needs to be wired.
I need it for grunt work only - no shows.

Any advice or known problems I need to be aware of?

What would the value be if mechanically sound?

PS - I am also not familiar with diesels. All my present tractors are gas.
 
Ford built 2 different 4000s in the 60s .Bless his heart! A four cylinder through 1964 and a three cylinder after 1964 .It would be helpful to know which tractor we are talking about.
 
If it says "4000 Industrial" on the hood, then it is most likely the earlier 4 cylinder 4000 made from 1961-1964. They were good strong tractors but any piece of equipment might have been abused over the years, and the industrial models seem to be in that category. I can't say for sure without at least seeing pictures though.

I believe that they were still using the cable steering for at least the earliest 4 cylinder 4000 industrial models, and parts for those are no longer available, so if it has the cable steering I would avoid it unless you have strong fabrication skills and want to take on some sort of steering conversion.
 
Ford 4000 industrial just have a fix font end. you can get parts for it, except the drop spindle, rest is just a 4000 tractor from 62 to 64. Ford industrial 65 up is a 4400, not 4000.Best I recall. There is a 65 up AG tractor, but the industrial is a 4400.
 
Some of these came with torque convertors and hydraulic reversers.
More complications. I think the main concern is keeping it warm.

Since you have other tractors, it would be a learning experience to see
how it goes. You'll need extra battery power, good working heaters.

As I recall, living in Minnesota, the dairy farmers preferred smaller
gas-fired tractors for chore work. The bigger diesels needed to be shedded.
 
I started to buy a 4400 70s model that was the exact tractor that my 74 4000 all purpose is except for the front end.May be the 4400 came out in the 70s, instead of the late 60s.
 
This is a 73 4400. the grill is different, and the 4400 did not come with a torque converter power reversing 4 speed, but the 4500 did.
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(quoted from post at 21:32:16 08/28/18) This is a 73 4400. the grill is different, and the 4400 did not come with a torque converter power reversing 4 speed, but the 4500 did.
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I am fairly certain that I have seen both the 4400's and 4500's with the torque converter power reversing 4x4 transmission. The parts site is being odd right at the moment. The only drawing it is showing in the 4400 section for that transmission is the oil cooler lines, but it has had the full set of drawings for that trans in the 4400 section in the past.
 
(quoted from post at 20:32:16 08/28/18) This is a 73 4400. the grill is different, and the 4400 did not come with a torque converter power reversing 4 speed, but the 4500 did.
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Oddly in the picture.....that front axle appears to be a 4500.. Did the 4400 get the upgraded axle in later production?
 
The 4400 was made from 1965-1975 with the 201 engine (gas, or diesel), and had either 6x4, 8x2, SOS, or 4x4. If it came with a loader it would be a 735 loader.
 
(quoted from post at 00:58:49 08/29/18) The light industrial 4000 is a 4030, or 4031, the 4000 HD industrial is a 4140 according to the online parts lookup.

4030 - light industrial 1961-1962
4130 - light industrial 1963-1964
4040 - heavy industrial 1961-1962
4140 - heavy industrial 1963-1964
 
I have had a couple of 4400s and a few 4000s so I am familiar with their differences.
I don't know when they started the 4400s am guessing 65 or 66 but know it was in the 60s, not 70s as my first one had the old style louvered hood and wrap around grill meaning it was pre 4/68.
My only point to this was Ford called a 4400 a Utility - not an industrial model.
If you looked at the numbers stamped into the transmission on say a 1969 4400 the middle line would start with D40. The 40 identifys it as a utility.
An industrial would start D50
An all purpose (AP) 4000 would start with D10.
A 4000 row crop would start with D20 etc, etc.
 

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