Ford 2000 model numbers

Hello! I think I figured out these model/serial/production numbers out on my tractor. However, the numbers don't seem the mesh with the under hood sticker. I know they could have changed the hood sometime in its life. I will post my numbers and see what yall think!
Numbers behind starter area:
7B20B -1967,Feb,20,dayshift
21023C -2000,AG/all purpose,gas,Live PTO,8spd
C168614 7C28 -1967 March 28 ???

Raised casting on engine- C9NN6015 -I am not sure about this one.

Under hood sticker:
Tractor # C360463
Model- D1114E
Unit- 2M08B
Engine- 2L08B
Trans- 2L24B
R Axle- 2K250
Hyd pump- 2J20A
Hyd Lift- 2K06B

I think I have the numbers behind the starter area figured out correctly. I'm not sure of the others. I would like to make sense of the engine casting number just so I know if it is original or the correct year. Like any used item, its history is a mystery!
 
D11 is a 4000 industrial, so hood was swapped, or you might have a Frankenstein Tractor.
 
Yeah, I was thinking the same about a Frankenstein tractor. Although wherever the hood came from it has the 2000 stickers/graphics on the outside. This is one reason I would like to understand what the casting # on the engine means... just so I know if it's from a old style 3 cylinder or a newer. Also my carburetor # is c9nn9510b which from what I have figured is from a 3000 model. So, it keeps me scratching my head and wondering!
 

Check the numbers on the rear axle, lift top, also look it the engine serial numbers and production date, see what all matches up.
We know the engines newer than 67, what about everything else.
 
I will check those numbers tomorrow and
post them. How do we know the engine is
newer that 67? I'm trying to understand
this process!
 

C9NN = part designed in 69 for a tractor, doesn't mean it was made that year, just the year that design as introduced.
6015 means it a engine block

Serial number on the flat above the oil pan rail on the right side will tell what the engine was made for.
Production date should be on a small flat pad on the block under the dist drive.
 
Thanks for the info. I will check on those
numbers tomorrow as well. At least I know
that the engine is the newer style...
however I would like to know exactly what
model.
 
Yep, FORD nomenclature dictates part numbers segregated by group/series basic numbers. For example, all vehicles use the 10000 number to define the generator. It is the part prefix code which further defines it as for which module it was first designed and used on. Part suffixes then determined which revision was used and a letter suffix defined which supplier was used. Thus, p/n 9N-10000-C would be the Ford 9N Tractor generator, the 'C' meaning it was the third EC Level/revision. Another example is the FORD grease guns. The Basic part Group Part Number Series for tools is 17000, and the grease gun is 17125. The FORD 9N first used two grease guns, 9N-17125-A1 and 9N-17125-A2. the A1 was one supplier, the A2 was a different supplier, but either one would be correct. Suppliers had their own part numbers. It would be the prefix that determined which module first used it and many parts crossed over to other modules and many parts never had a revision thus retained their original p/n as released. That is why you can find a "9N" part prefixed number on a Hundred Series tractor. Parts also had their casting numbers as well as assembly numbers. Casting numbers would be cast on the part itself but assembly numbers never appeared on a part, only listed in MPC's. Often folks mistake a part casting number for their vehicle serial number or assembly number. This is why it is so important to have a Master Parts Catalog and know how to differentiate part numbers, casting numbers, and assembly numbers. You won't find a casting number listed in an MPC.

Tim Daley(MI
 
Either the hood was swapped or the transmission was swapped. Maybe more parts than those have been swapped over the years as well, but for sure those two parts weren't on the same tractor when they left the factory.

Check the engine serial number, which is down below the raised cast number C9NN6015 that you found. The numbers are stamped into the flat rail just above the oil pan and they are much smaller numbers than the raised cast numbers. Here is a picture of where the engine serial number is located on a 4 cylinder 5000, but they are in the same place on th e3 cylinder engines. The red oval near the bottom is where the engine s/n is:

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If the engine s/n starts with a N or a C then it is a 3000 series engine., If it starts with a P or a D then it is a 4000 series engine.

Post some pictures of the front and rear axles and the engine serial number and we can probably get closer to what it really is.
 
Sorry, I had 3000 on my brain when I typed that last bit. If the engine serial number starts with an L or a B then it's a 2000 series engine. And if it starts with a P or a D then it's a 4000 series engine.
 
So, I looked for engine serial/production numbers today and this is what I found:
Just above the oil pan-
C269961

Below the distributor/governor area-
C
60L07
1A6

These were all stamped and not raised castings.
I could not locate the transmission or axle codes. I am assuming that I am looking for stamped numbers as well?
 
So, doing some quick figuring, does this mean the engine is from a 3000 and built in 1971 January 6 on night shift?
 
C269961 for an engine serial number means it was made for the 3000 series. 1A6 would be January 6 1971.

So you have a tractor with a 1972 4400 hood, a 1967 2000 series transmission and a 1971 3000 series engine. It's a mutt, but now you at least know what tractor to look up parts for when you need to work on the transmission or engine.

Please post some pictures of the front and rear axles and steering linkage. That will tell us whether the front axle and steering are from a 2000/3000 series ag model, or a 4000 series ag model, or one of the Utility/Industrial models, like the 3400/3500/4400/4500, and then you'll know which model to lookup parts for if you need parts for those sections of the tractor.
 
The engine date stamp is by the axle support bolts:

As for the Letters, you can remember them as:

"L" is for Legere, French for light, little, small

"N" is for Normale, French for standard

"P" is for Puisance, French for powerful

"R" is for Robuste, French for robust

(believe it or not.)
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Sorry I said 4400 earlier, D11 is a 4110, which is the Low Center of Gravity Industrial model in the 4000 series.

From your pictures, it's got the front and rear axles and manual steering setup from an ag chassis 2000 and/or 3000. The front spindles aren't as short as on a 4110. It has no flow control valve on the right side, which means the rear axle center housing is from a 2000, as the 3000 had a flow control knob on the right side with a black plastic knob that your tractor does not have. I believe that even the 4110 had a flow control valve but I may be mistaken, so anyone out there who knows for sure please let us know.

It has a transmission that's stamped that it was originally in a 2000 as well.

The radiator shell/nosecone is the earlier design of the pre-4/1/68 tractors, but the hood itself is the later non-louvered style, so since the date code on the 2000 series transmission says 1967, I would say that the majority of the tractor is a '67 2000 series ag chassis tractor, but it has had an engine transplant from a 3000, and the hood from a 4110.
 
Thanks for taking the time to check out my
pictures and commenting on them. Now I am
waiting on my new carburetor to show up so
I can put this thing to work!
 

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