Ford 640 carb

Anybody have any clue on what type of carb is on a 55 or 56 Ford 640 tractor. I can't Id it is a M/S carb.

Thanks for any help.

JUSTIN
 
(quoted from post at 17:06:44 07/20/18) Anybody have any clue on what type of carb is on a 55 or 56 Ford 640 tractor. I can't Id it is a M/S carb.

Thanks for any help.

JUSTIN

Here's a pic of my carb off my 1955 640. I believe it was a tx241 Marvel Schleber
 
(quoted from post at 17:17:23 07/20/18)
(quoted from post at 17:06:44 07/20/18) Anybody have any clue on what type of carb is on a 55 or 56 Ford 640 tractor. I can't Id it is a M/S carb.

Thanks for any help.

JUSTIN

Here's a pic of my carb off my 1955 640. I believe it was a tx241 Marvel Schleber
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How does your fuel line hook up? A 640 may have a TSX-692
with a sediment bowl attached to the carb. It would look similar
to the one in this picture, but the fuel line should come in from
the rear instead of from the front like this is for testing.

Mike's picture looks to be a TSX-428 or maybe a 500.
Any of those work fine on a 134CI engine also.

Does yours have a brass tag on it anywhere to ID it?
Can you post pictures of it?

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(quoted from post at 18:00:49 07/20/18) How does your fuel line hook up? A 640 may have a TSX-692
with a sediment bowl attached to the carb. It would look similar
to the one in this picture, but the fuel line should come in from
the rear instead of from the front like this is for testing.

Mike's picture looks to be a TSX-428 or maybe a 500.
Any of those work fine on a 134CI engine also.

Does yours have a brass tag on it anywhere to ID it?
Can you post pictures of it?

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Royse is right about my carb..here's a pic of a genuine TX-241

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My question to Royse is what does the 40 mean on the tx241 tag?
 
(quoted from post at 21:22:53 07/20/18)
(quoted from post at 18:00:49 07/20/18) How does your fuel line hook up? A 640 may have a TSX-692
with a sediment bowl attached to the carb. It would look similar
to the one in this picture, but the fuel line should come in from
the rear instead of from the front like this is for testing.

Mike's picture looks to be a TSX-428 or maybe a 500.
Any of those work fine on a 134CI engine also.

Does yours have a brass tag on it anywhere to ID it?
Can you post pictures of it?

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Royse is right about my carb..here's a pic of a genuine TX-241

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My question to Royse is what does the 40 mean on the tx241 tag?
It's stamped odd compared to most. Best guess? April 1950.
Here are a couple pictures of my TSX-428 and it's tag. March '53.

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Your carb, M/S TSX-241, is for the 9N, 2N, or 8N using the 119 CID flathead 4-cyl engines, not the NAA or 600. How did you get it on your 600? They are built reverse of each other. The N unit mounts on the RH side of engine and the NAA/600 mounts on the LH side. I also believe the intake flange mounting bolt hole spread is different too. The NAA/600 models use either the M/S TSX-428 or the TSX-580 carb. Both the NAA and the 600 model tractors use the Red Tiger 134 CID OHV engine.

Tim Daley(MI)
 
Model year doesn't mean anything, tractor model does. You may not even have an original Marvel-Schebler carburetor; there are many clones out there especially today as M/S is no longer in business. M/S, parent company was Borg-Warner is long gone. Most all new parts made in Cheena today are junk anyway and that is why it is important to reuse/rebuild the originals -they were designed to do so over and over. The NAA and the Model 600 both used the FORD Red Tiger 134 CID OHV engine. The carb used, there were two models, are, the TSX-428, FORD p/n EAE9510C, and the TSX-580, FORD p/n EAE9510D. The 134 CID engine had the carb mounted on the LH side of engine. The carbs were mirror images/reverse design than the TSX-33 and TSX-241 N carbs, and slightly larger as well. They do not interchange on tractors.

Tim Daley(MI)
 
They are not all made in China.
These were cast in the high tech foundry behind my house.
I don't know where they go from here. Some machine shop.
Note the orange glow in the ones still elveloped in the molds. They had poured them not long before I snapped the photo.
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I have the 428 with the side inlet.. tried
to post a picture this morning but I'm
having issues, so no picture. The brass I'd
tag had bounced off or fell over over the
years. Thanks for all ya'll help.

Justin.
 
You're welcome. This was my 640 and [b:983af98e54]this[/b:983af98e54] is where it started.

Notice that mine has the sediment bowl mounted on the carb?
Just because a book says it "should have" doesn't mean it does.
Many things have been changed over the years of service they provide.

If you're looking to buy a rebuild kit for the carb, the complete kit
for a TSX-428 sold [b:983af98e54]here[/b:983af98e54] on YT should work out pretty well for you.

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Cool beans! It looks like they are using the 'lost-foam' casting process. Are they cast iron or aluminum? Is the foundry near you still operating? Most US small foundries closed up due to EPA mandates. Yep, it is possible to still find some parts that were made in India or Brazil 20 years ago where they did have some QC in place. That's about when Cheena began to monopolize on ALL manufacturing. I bought some NOS parts at my local tractor (Kubota) dealer with a boneyard full of vintage makes and models of tractors and equipment. They were once a FORD TRACTOR dealer many moons ago, but sell new parts for them and all makes. Anyway, I got some NOS TISCO parts for my N's still in their original shrink wrap/sealed plastic and marked 'MADE IN THE USA'.

Tim Daley(MI)
 
Clarification needed to amend my previous post. Both the NAA and the 600/700 Models used the Red Tiger OHV 134 CID engine, which is true. However, they did not use the same TSX-428 Carb. The M/S TSX-428 carb, FORD p/n EAE9510C was only used on the NAA. The TSX-580 carb, FORD p/n EAE9510D, was used on 600/700 tractors. Though the NAA and the 600/700 models used the 134 engine, and the carb was mounted on the LH side of engine, the Fuel Sediment Bulb Assembly was mounted on the RH side under the hood attached to the Fuel Tank. The 800 & 900 tractors used either the M/S TSX-593, FORD p/n EAF9510D, or the TSX-706, FORD p/n EAF9510G. These were also mounted on the LH side of engine but the Fuel Sediment Bulb was now attached right to the carb ?see picture. The 601/701 Series used the TSX-765 carb. With the 801 and 901 Series, the TSX carbs could be the 692; 771; 662; 769; or 813 models.

FORD TRACTOR MODELS 600 & 800 SERIES CARBURETOR:
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Tim Daley(MI)
 

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