Golden Jubilee froze up

Awilson

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My friend has a NAA when we try to turn it over with the starter it will not turn over. It will roll in Neurtal or in gear with the clutch in as soon as you let the clutch out it will not roll and the tires try to turn in opposiate directions. Does this sound like the engine is froze or stuck in 2 gears it had sat for about 5 years.
 
I agree, Engine. Put some kerosene mix with Marvel Mystery Oil in each cylinder. Let sit for 4-6 days. Try again to free it up with plugs out.
 
(quoted from post at 20:08:36 07/09/18) I agree, Engine. Put some kerosene mix with Marvel Mystery Oil in each cylinder. Let sit for 4-6 days. Try again to free it up with plugs out.
We filled the cylinders with on blaster and marvel mystery oil last summer and let it sit all winter now we are trying again I pulled the oil pan and the bottom end looks good. Would the best way to unfree it be to tow it?
 
(quoted from post at 20:19:12 07/09/18)
(quoted from post at 20:08:36 07/09/18) I agree, Engine. Put some kerosene mix with Marvel Mystery Oil in each cylinder. Let sit for 4-6 days. Try again to free it up with plugs out.
We filled the cylinders with on blaster and marvel mystery oil last summer and let it sit all winter now we are trying again I pulled the oil pan and the bottom end looks good. Would the best way to unfree it be to tow it?

Towing is not advisable because it is too likely to add driveline problems to your engine problems. You can remove the starter and pry on the ring gear with a screwdriver or bar, but you have little leverage there. You may very well have to remove the head, but it may be worth trying bumping it with a rear wheel. Jack one rear up, put the transmission in third and turn the tire back and forth bumping the engine with the tire. This gives you the rotating mass of the tire, plus the leverage. Don't rush it. Time is still your friend.
 
If you have done that already you need just
jack up one rear tire and rock it. No go,
pull the head before you do more damage. My
guess is the valves are stuck. Pull the starter to be sure it isn't locked up as well.
 
to determine engine or tranny, with clutch in, will engine turn over.. if yes.. it's tranny.. if no.. it's engine.
 
(quoted from post at 12:21:31 07/10/18) Do they make a hand crank for this tractor would That also be a good way to free it up?

How could you think that a hand crank could be more likely to free it than the rear wheel? Even if you are a mountain of a man you still get a lot of leverage and inertia with the wheel and none with a crank. Post back if you don't understand bumping it with the rear wheel.
 
(quoted from post at 14:37:19 07/10/18)
(quoted from post at 12:21:31 07/10/18) Do they make a hand crank for this tractor would That also be a good way to free it up?

How could you think that a hand crank could be more likely to free it than the rear wheel? Even if you are a mountain of a man you still get a lot of leverage and inertia with the wheel and none with a crank. Post back if you don't understand bumping it with the rear wheel.
I understand how to bump the tire we just thought that the crank might have made it easier.
 
When my Allis Chalmers CA engine got stuck, I pulled the head and found one cylinder with water in it and some rust on the cylinder walls. I used a mix of automatic transmission fluid and kerosene and filled the cylinder with it and let it set for a few days.

Then I dropped the pan and disconnected the rod cap and with a 3 inch diameter peace of wood and a hammer, gently tapped the top of the cylinder until the cylinder started to break loose. I was very careful to not bang on the cylinder very hard. Once the cylinder was loose I removed it pushing from the bottom and carefully cleaned up the ring groves. I put the engine back together using the same parts and didn't even replace the rod bearings.

The engine runs fine now and doesn't not use any oil.

Just be careful not to beat it too hard. But use the tire bump first. The trick is to soften up the rust accumulation so it can start a little movement.
 

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