SOS Lower Selector Cable

Gonna try this question again after getting into it a bit further. My lower selector cable did break at the Tranny Cover as I suspected. Was able to finally pull the cable from the conduit after straightening the conduit. Clearly the cable was getting wedged in the conduit, probably at the connector. So here are my questions. Where can I get one of these bad boys and how easy is it to attached under the tranny cover? The service manual makes it look fairly straight forward.

Without checking - I think it's still available from CNH. If you have the old one all removed it should just thread into the trunnion wheel. If you also pulled the PTO cable, be careful replacing it or you'll have to pull the cover to get the actuator back in position.

Hey Larry, It is the lower cable that is broken and it broke at the cover where the conduit fitting is so I'm definitely gonna have to pull the cover. I called CNH and it is difficult to say for sure but I think they have the upper cable but not the lower cable. It is shown very poorly in the parts manual or on CNH exploded views.

maybe it is the camera angle but I don't see where your cable is broken.

Me either!

You can see the upper and lower cable connector about 6
inches from the end of the cable at the lower right corner of the
photo. The end of the cable is clearly broken as there is no
fitting at the end of the cable. The rest of the cable as I have
said is at and just below the tranny cover. You guys are just
gonna have to trust me on this one.

Since I can"t seem to get a clear answer whether these cables
are still avialable today I guess I"m gonna try the brazing
option that I found in the archives.

(quoted from post at 16:58:06 06/13/13) You can see the upper and lower cable connector about 6
inches from the end of the cable at the lower right corner of the
photo. The end of the cable is clearly broken as there is no
fitting at the end of the cable. The rest of the cable as I have
said is at and just below the tranny cover. You guys are just
gonna have to trust me on this one.

Since I can"t seem to get a clear answer whether these cables
are still avialable today I guess I"m gonna try the brazing
option that I found in the archives.

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Rick there is not supposed to be a fitting at the end of the cable!!

(quoted from post at 16:58:06 06/13/13) You can see the upper and lower cable connector about 6
inches from the end of the cable at the lower right corner of the
photo. The end of the cable is clearly broken as there is no
fitting at the end of the cable. The rest of the cable as I have
said is at and just below the tranny cover. You guys are just
gonna have to trust me on this one.

Since I can"t seem to get a clear answer whether these cables
are still avialable today I guess I"m gonna try the brazing
option that I found in the archives.

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Rick, your cable is not broken!! There is not supposed to be a fitting on the end on it!! you are going off half cocked here. Don't be so sure of how it goes together until you have the cover off. The threads of the cable thread into the linkage under the cover.

Rick, I'm with Showcrop on this. You're going to have to trust those of us with experience here, or you'll have more headaches than you've already got.

You don't have to figure everything out the hard way! Some of us have been there and done it for you if you'll listen to us.

I would not be happier than if that cable is not broken. If it's not I'm prepared to eat a plate of crow. I'll pull that cover this weekend and let you know what I find. Believe me I know the value of this site. I have used it often as I have 7 of these old Fords dating back to 1944. I would probably not have that many Ford tractors if it weren't for this website. This website is a testament to what is good in people who selflessly help others.

(quoted from post at 08:53:51 06/14/13) I would not be happier than if that cable is not broken. If it's not I'm prepared to eat a plate of crow. I'll pull that cover this weekend and let you know what I find. Believe me I know the value of this site. I have used it often as I have 7 of these old Fords dating back to 1944. I would probably not have that many Ford tractors if it weren't for this website. This website is a testament to what is good in people who selflessly help others.

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Rick,

I wouldn't rush to remove that top cover at this point. If you believed the lower cable was broken, I assume you did not "spin" it out the way it should be removed. I would guess maybe it pulled out on it's own? and that is part of the confusion?

If it did pull out, then there is the issue of possible thread problems on one or both parts that should keep the lower cable attached to the valve cam. Like Showcrop and Larry, I can't see anything in the pic that looks damaged, but puny threads may be hard to see.

Exactly how did the lower cable come out of the tranny cover?

If for some reason you do end up needing a new cable, Larry is one of the best resources I've seen for finding the used parts, CNH prices may floor you.

Chris

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If for some reason you do end up needing a new cable, Larry is one of the best resources I've seen for finding the used parts, CNH prices may floor you.

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So Larry, should we call you "Larry the Cable Guy" from now on? :wink:

LOL - but no! Because I don't have a spare cable.

Hello Rick , Since you did not say what kind of tractor you are working on I will assume by the parts book pages you are working on a 601/801 tractor ? If you are then the lower cable is 5 3/4 inches long and by looking at your pictures IT IS NOT BROKEN as everyone else has said and there IS NOT a fitting on the end of the cable because you would not be able to thread the cable into the cable wheel on the valve body . The upper cables and casings are different lengths depending on what tractor you have and none of the casings are the same as steel tubing or copper tubing the brass ones made by Ford are very unique to the Select-O-Speed cables only . If the casings are the original Ford ones there is no way the cables will cock inside of them unless someone has damaged them even ones with 7,000 or 8,000 hours of use generally show no wear at all . The picture you have posted FIGURE 135 is showing how to line up the PTO CABLE LINKAGE using the the lower shifter cable as a guide to install the cover it is not showing the installation of the lower cable into the valve body . You also should not have straightened out the cable casing for the shifter because now you will need a pattern to get it back to the factory bends so that the cable will not bind when you try to shift it into gear , because what will happen next will be cable wheel inside the shifter will get stripped and will not move the cable . Since I did not see your original post of the original problem I have no idea why you have this all apart but you adding much more work than is needed . Thanks Tony

I may be ready to eat the plate of crow. Here"s the end of the
cable. Is this threaded into the fitting in the tranny cover and
somehow attached?

Nope! Not into the tranny cover. Should drop through the cover and thread into the trunnion wheel on the end of the control valve shaft.

Thanks Tony, Mine is an 881 and the cable is 5 3/4 inches long so it appears that everyone is right and I am eating crow. I expected there to be a more typical cable fitting like a round disc on a brake handle. By the looks of the cable it seems that I should thread this cable through the cover counterclockwise. Is that how it attaches to the cable wheel? Is there a spiral in the cable wheel that aligns with the spiral on the cable?

I could not get the cable out of the conduit until I straighten the conduit. I did not want to break the cable. The conduit had a few bends that I'm sure were not factory bends. Is there a template for this conduit? I figured I could possibly try to rebend the conduit after making my own template and make sure it moves freely before installing or make a new conduit the exact same length with flared ends and gently bend with a tubing bender. Thoughts?.

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Without checking - I think it's still available from CNH. If you have the old one all removed it should just thread into the trunnion wheel. If you also pulled the PTO cable, be careful replacing it or you'll have to pull the cover to get the actuator back in position.

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im in need of the selector conduit do you know where I can get it ?

(quoted from post at 14:58:15 06/24/18)

(quoted from post at 12:52:54 06/12/13)
Without checking - I think it's still available from CNH. If you have the old one all removed it should just thread into the trunnion wheel. If you also pulled the PTO cable, be careful replacing it or you'll have to pull the cover to get the actuator back in position.

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im in need of the selector conduit do you know where I can get it ?

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Robjr, you should put your question up as a new topic. Most members on this forum pride themselves on scorning change and all things modern so they are on classic view where old threads do not get viewed.