Ford 5000 4x4

Is there a way to lock the hubs in on this tractor? The front axle is not engaged to the front drive line. I?ve crawled all over this thing and its been repainted so many time the VIN is unreadable so I can?t even confirm the year. Any info on this tractor and front differential would be great.

I would call a dealer, maybe Messicks, and ask for the service dept. Maybe they could point you in the right direction.

Please advise whether the engage is by switch or lever. Generally tractor hubs are permanently locked and there is an engage in the transmission.

(quoted from post at 08:04:20 06/19/18) I would call a dealer, maybe Messicks, and ask for the service dept. Maybe they could point you in the right direction.

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The 5000 was never offered with 4x4 from the factory by Ford, so a dealer isn't going to be able to help much. It has to be a third party conversion.

Is the drive shaft to the front axle spinning when you engage the 4x4 and does it stop spinning when you disengage it? If so, and the front wheels are not getting powered, try jacking the front of the tractor up so that both front wheels are in the air with the tractor not running, and then with the 4x4 lever in the engaged position try turning one of the front wheels by hand. If the other wheel spins in the opposite direction then both axles are connected to one another via the differential. If the other wheel doesn't move, then there is something broken between the two wheels, like an axle shaft or the ring and/or pinion gear, or possibly the gears in the final drive at one of the knuckle joints out at the ends of the axle halves.

If you need parts you could try contacting Tony Jacobs, a member here. He owns the remains of Elenco, one of the companies that did the conversions back then, and he knows a lot about most of the others as well. He could probably tell just from your pictures exactly what brand of 4x4 conversion it is and where you might be able to get parts if any are available.

looks like a roadless conversion handle on left side by foot board or foot rest should engage it if pushed forward if its forward and doesn't engage you have a broke axle my guess

Well bad news...wheels spin independently of each other. Wuite smooothy though. I bought it this way so I think the front end has been gutted. 4WD lever is buy the left foot. Tried attaching a video along with photos but couldn?t get it to work.

After looking at your pictures, I am curious.... How does the left wheel steer? I see the track rod going from the steering arm forward into the bolster and I see the connecting rod going from the bolster out to the knuckle at the right wheel, but I don't see any steering linkage connected to anything at the left wheel.

Sean,
It is very low under the axel then a Y piece at mid knuckle.
It shows best in his first set of pics.
It is almost flat as it comes across.
Keith

(quoted from post at 13:39:29 06/20/18) After looking at your pictures, I am curious.... How does the left wheel steer? I see the track rod going from the steering arm forward into the bolster and I see the connecting rod going from the bolster out to the knuckle at the right wheel, but I don't see any steering linkage connected to anything at the left wheel.

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On the last picture you can see the steering linkage go from left wheel under the driveline to the right wheel. Right wheel is then controled by the bolster.

Marcus, I doubt very much that the PO would go to the work of gutting it. I agree with putting a shout out to Tony Jacobs. He would be a good resource for after market FWA of any brand. I haven't seen Him on here in awhile so post back if you are not successful in contacting him and I will give him shout.

Doesn't look anything like my roadless conversion, other than the front axle appears to be the same repurposed GMC cckw 2.5 ton axle.

Pull the cap off in the center of the wheels to see if there is a stub axle sticking out.

If it's the same width as a roadless conversion then the short side axle is 2 stub shafts put together, and the long side is standard unit from a truck. If you need shafts good luck it took me lots of searching and a bit of cash to find two stub shafts for mine.

I have no idea. My understanding was they went from round
to square in the early 70s

(quoted from post at 01:51:21 06/24/18) I have no idea. My understanding was they went from round to square in the early 70s

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Look like European flat top 5000 fenders to me. The front corner of the right one has been bent down over the years probably from someone leaning on it when getting on and off of the tractor.

As far as I know they used the flat top fenders for the European made tractors because those came with the wider floorboards that left no gap between the fender and the floorboard due to safety laws over in some European countries back then. Also, as far as I know, they used the round fenders on the US tractors for the entire production run and the flat top fenders on the European ones for the entire run as well.

I seen some of the European fenders and the ones I've seen extend down to the foot boards, those don't.
Also the curved over front and straight back look exactly like the original fenders on my friends JD 2630 built in the 70's.
I've never seen fenders like that on a Ford before, US or Euro.