Ford 3Cyl engine weight?

I'm renovating a Ford 4610 4wd 3Cyl Diesel engine after a broken piston.
Now it's time to put it back together, I have borrowed an enginestand from a friend..
But how much does that engine weigh?
That stand can handle 1200lbs, is that enought?

I cant see any engine weight in the manual. Its gonna be weight without the flywheel on.

Does anyone know?

Kind regards
Morten

The entire tractor only weighs about 4800 lbs. dry, and I doubt that the engine is anywhere near 25% of that total. My guess (and this is only a guess) would be somewhere between 400 and 600 lbs., maybe less than that. I have posted a link below to a document with the weights of a number of different engines, and the heaviest standard modern big block V-8 is under 800 lbs. There are a few very old exotic engines on the list that top out over 1,000 lbs, but the 3 cylinder Ford tractor engines were actually fairly modern in design and I wouldn't expect them to weigh as much as an automotive in-line 6 cylinder (3 cylinder would have to be twice the weight per cylinder which I doubt), which all appear to top out somewhere under 600 lbs. So I would feel perfectly safe with a lift that is rated for 1200 lbs.

http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/engineweights.html

The engine will weight around 500 lbs
Issue I always had with engine stands was the arms didn't spread out wide enough the fit the engine bolt pattern and the arms on most stands were for 1/2" bolts or smaller.
The two top bolt holes in the block are 1" so to support the engine properly you'll need to make you own support arms to fit the engine.

BSD engine weights are listed in some of my sales literature. The BSD333H, which is what a 4610 would have, is listed as 712
pounds. Does not specify if that is with or without the flywheel, but I would suspect without, as I don't think the flywheel was
included when buying a BSD engine...but I could be wrong on that. Anyway... still well within the stand's capacity. And Destroked
is right - you're probably going to have to make arms to match the bellhousing bolts on the block.

My brother who worked for a Ford tractor dealership told me about the engine stand support brackets they made for the 3 cylinder. I made mine out of pieces of scrap, makes putting the short block together much easier. I put the head on after the short block was bolted to the transmission.

That's a good setup there.

I hung a big block 460 on a 1200 lb stand once and thought it was going to break the head off of the stand.
Went and got a 1500 lb stand.

I had a 3000 engine on a 750 lb stand, with flywheel.

That bracket looks handy.

Thanks for all your good answers, I think i'm safe then
I'm allready in the process of making new arm for the stand, so it will fit the engines large bolts

My next issue later down the road is that the fuelpump sprocket dont have any markings on it :/ But maybe the manual can help me there, I hevnt looked yet

Thanks again guys!

Inj pump drive gear should have a dot mark for setting the timing.

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Inj pump drive gear should have a dot mark for setting the timing.

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Yes it should have, but after dissasamblement, i saw that it didn't :?

No offense, but I hope the welds on that stand are more solid than they look. I think I would have added a few more reinforcements along the
way.

(quoted from post at 06:18:20 05/09/18) No offense, but I hope the welds on that stand are more solid than they look. I think I would have added a few more reinforcements along the
way.

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You can have the prettiest welds in the world, but not have good penetration. Not the best looking welds on the stand, but I guarantee you couldn't break them.

Did you check both sides? It's only marked on one side... and it's a small mark, easy to miss.

I agree - looks aren't everything. That said, from the pics it doesn't look like there's much there.

(quoted from post at 16:00:00 05/09/18) I agree - looks aren't everything. That said, from the pics it doesn't look like there's much there.

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Doesn't need as much as you may think for that little 3 banger, but I wouldn't put a engine from a D6 Cat on it.

Your 1500 pound stand should be ok, if you can get the brackets to reach the engine bolt holes. I have the 158 cu.in. 3 cyl engine from my Ford 3000 on a 1000 pound HF stand now. Don't let the number of cylinders fool you. This is a very HEAVY engine. The complete engine with flywheel and clutch had to be more than 1000 pounds. I've installed several automotive V8 engines and transmissions as an assembly. None of those were as heavy as this engine/flywheel/clutch assembly.

My engine stand brackets would accept 5/8" hardware (barely) but they would not spread wide enough to match up with the 4 bolt holes at either side of the block. The two blind threaded holes at the top are even larger bolts, so I didn't attempt to use those. I found some engine stand adapters by Merrick. The Merrick brackets are intended to use one half of their restoration rotisserie to an engine stand. These brackets are long enough, but will only pass 1/2" hardware. I bought grade 5 bolts and washers. The new brackets allow the engine to sit low enough it is balanced ok with the cylinder head off. It's still a bit top heavy, but manageable.

The HF stand was looking very stressed, and I had zero confidence in it, until the cylinder head was off. This is a big heavy engine. My best guess, the assembled short block, front cover, and rotating assembly (with the cylinder head off) is around 750 pounds. I used my engine crane to pull the cylinder head. That weighs more than I wanted to try and lift by hand.

I really like the engine adapter that mounts on one side of the engine. If I ever need to put another of these engines on a stand, I will make one of those.
KL