Interesting 4000

Ultradog MN · Jan 20, 2018

Board member White Halftrack sent these to me.
A 4000 that caught his eye.
Note the side mounted pump and 3000 style pto
handle. I've never seen an AP with that combo.
Would it have transmission pto?
I wonder what that thing hanging on the front
is for.

wayde · Jan 20, 2018

Have a 4000 utility LP with same set up.

Destroked 450 · Jan 20, 2018

You don't see many but a 4000 with trans pto would have that setup.

IanC · Jan 20, 2018

With clutch pedal that high it probably has dual stage clutch live PTO rather than independent. I also don't see a diff lock pedal, and that leaf spring seat is what was considered a "standard" seat (but if original would have been blue like the rest of the chassis) so it it may have been ordered to be less expensive sales lot draw for the dealer. Just like auto dealer will have a couple "work" trucks to advertise at a low price. Get the actual model number the second to last digit is the PTO type.

RickB · Jan 21, 2018

I have never seen a verified 4000 with a trans PTO. So they do exist?

grandpa Love · Jan 21, 2018

Sure ain't a typical pulling tractor ,but sure looks like a place to hang a bunch of weights off front.

Sean in PA · Jan 21, 2018

(quoted from post at 05:38:35 01/21/18) I have never seen a verified 4000 with a trans PTO. So they do exist?

I've never seen one either, but the parts drawings show the engine mounted piston pump being used for the 2000, 3000 and for "4000 without independent PTO". The funny thing is that pump was also used for the 3 cylinder 4000's with the S-O-S transmission, which mine has, and they had independent PTO, but the PTO clutch pack was internal to the transmission on those, so the S-O-S didn't use the gear pump in the center housing.

RickB · Jan 21, 2018

I?m not doubting the existence, especially if Destroked has seen 4000?s configured this way. It would be interesting to get the model code from
the clutch housing. Clearly this one has planetary finals.

Destroked 450 · Jan 21, 2018

Only seen one and that was many years ago, It may have been a little cheaper that way, but that's just a guess.
I remember some of the farmers didn't like the ind pto at first since they where used to the pto stopping when they pushed the clutch to the floor on the previous models, SOS excluded.

I agree that it would be nice to see the model code to see if it actually is model D1022C.

It's a very odd combination, non ind pto and leaf spring seat indicates a cheaper priced tractor, but it has power steering and 38" power adjust wheels which where both price increasing options.
The size of the tires look more like 15.5-38's rather than the skinnier 13.6-38, rims also look to be appropriate for the tire size. My 5000 came with 15.5-38's, never seen them on a 4000 before, but they may have been swapped on at a later date.

Appears they had issues with the hyd piping, a rubber hyd hose has been adapted to the pressure pipe.

Ultradog MN · Jan 22, 2018

The seat could have been changed at any time.
The same style pan seat/spring will fit about
all of them from 39 till who knows when. 80s
for sure.
My 4200 has 15.5s -about 15% Firestones. I
recently found a decent set of 60%? Co ops for
it. They're 13.6s.

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