I hate boosting batteries

Larry NCKS

Well-known Member
I've got batteries that I guess are a bit too old for this cold snap in my 8670 Genesis tractor.

What do you all do to keep 'em perky in the cold when you don't use the machine they're in every day or even every week?
 
(quoted from post at 18:02:42 12/27/17) I've got batteries that I guess are a bit too old for this cold snap in my 8670 Genesis tractor.

What do you all do to keep 'em perky in the cold when you don't use the machine they're in every day or even every week?
hat's what my jumper cables are for.
 
Its minus 20 here now, I have a tender on every battery I have. Boat, 4 wheeler, lawn tractors, plow, you name it. Works for me.
 
(quoted from post at 18:08:16 12/27/17) Its minus 20 here now, I have a tender on every battery I have. Boat, 4 wheeler, lawn tractors, plow, you name it. Works for me.
hat assumes electric power available. Not where some of mine live.
 
(quoted from post at 17:07:28 12/27/17)
(quoted from post at 18:02:42 12/27/17) I've got batteries that I guess are a bit too old for this cold snap in my 8670 Genesis tractor.

What do you all do to keep 'em perky in the cold when you don't use the machine they're in every day or even every week?
hat's what my jumper cables are for.

You apparently failed to note that I hate boosting batteries.
 
(quoted from post at 18:46:43 12/27/17)
(quoted from post at 17:07:28 12/27/17)
(quoted from post at 18:02:42 12/27/17) I've got batteries that I guess are a bit too old for this cold snap in my 8670 Genesis tractor.

What do you all do to keep 'em perky in the cold when you don't use the machine they're in every day or even every week?
hat's what my jumper cables are for.

You apparently failed to note that I hate boosting batteries.
noticed! What else are you going to do, besides swap batteries where there is no electric power? I'll take your better solution?
 
(quoted from post at 17:07:28 12/27/17)
You apparently failed to note that I hate boosting batteries.
noticed! What else are you going to do, besides swap batteries where there is no electric power? I'll take your better solution?[/quote]

I didn't say I had no electrical power. I like JimmyJack's answer. If you're without power that's your problem . . . but I wasn't asking for an answer for you.
 
I bought one of the new 1000 amp lithium ion jumper packages, and it beats the hell out of the old heavy lead jumper that is always
low when you need it. Mine is supposed to start 20 vehicles from a dead battery and not need charging for up to 2 years if it isnt
used. I can also charge telephone etc off of it. ABout the size of a small brick. And I dont have to worry about someone hooking
up the cables wrong! I paid 100 bucks and its worth every penny.
 
(quoted from post at 18:59:16 12/27/17)
(quoted from post at 17:07:28 12/27/17)
You apparently failed to note that I hate boosting batteries.
noticed! What else are you going to do, besides swap batteries where there is no electric power? I'll take your better solution?

I didn't say I had no electrical power. I like JimmyJack's answer. If you're without power that's your problem . . . but I wasn't asking for an answer for you.[/quote]..and today is the very first time you ever heard of a battery tender (float charger)????
 
(quoted from post at 22:52:28 12/27/17)
(quoted from post at 18:59:16 12/27/17)
(quoted from post at 17:07:28 12/27/17)
You apparently failed to note that I hate boosting batteries.
noticed! What else are you going to do, besides swap batteries where there is no electric power? I'll take your better solution?

I didn't say I had no electrical power. I like JimmyJack's answer. If you're without power that's your problem . . . but I wasn't asking for an answer for you.
..and today is the very first time you ever heard of a battery tender (float charger)????[/quote]nd if not, then why did you ask? Lonely, today?
 
+1 for the battery tender. I've kept batteries alive for over 15 years and believe the battery tender is responsible for their long life.

If 110v power not available, there are solar solutions.

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(quoted from post at 20:20:12 12/27/17) Larry,

What year is the tractor in question?

It's one that starts at the crack of a whip, if it has good batteries. Is that your question? If the batteries are low, the first thing not to energize is the fuel solenoid and then then intake toaster.
 
(quoted from post at 06:22:53 12/28/17) I bought one of the new 1000 amp lithium ion jumper packages, and it beats the hell out of the old heavy lead jumper that is always
low when you need it. Mine is supposed to start 20 vehicles from a dead battery and not need charging for up to 2 years if it isnt
used. I can also charge telephone etc off of it. ABout the size of a small brick. And I dont have to worry about someone hooking
up the cables wrong! I paid 100 bucks and its worth every penny.

I use a Micro-Start XP-10 its worked great I did toast one on a Dodge diesel it had not been started in quite awhile both bats were bone dead and BAD... I should have known better but had to know. I have two Micro's so hooked one up to one bat and my tow truck to another to get it started.

My advice a diesel will eat one up with out a booster on all the battery's. It burned the cable connection were it goes into the Micro start. Other than that its worked as advertised :)
 
(quoted from post at 04:54:40 12/28/17) +1 for the battery tender. I've kept batteries alive for over 15 years and believe the battery tender is responsible for their long life.

If 110v power not available, there are solar solutions.

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What brand is this unit?
 
Larry, I ask again, what year is this thing? Depending on its age, it could potentially answer your question. Is it an older
Ford, or a newer NH? Can you narrow it down to the actual serial number?
 

'97 NH 414873 or 783 without looking. Spec ordered directly out of Winnipeg. Arrived at dealership late November '97.
 
OK. If it was an older one, say 1994 vintage, I would have spent the time to dig up an old service bulletin related to
excessive key-off battery parasitic draw.
 
Larry-
As others already stated, you need to invest in a battery float charger for every vehicle that sets idle for more than 30 days at a time. Note there is a difference between float charger and trickle charger. You do not want to use a trickle charger as it can do serious damage to your battery. If left unattended, i could overcharge the battery and ruin it. A float charger will maintain the battery to full charge and shut off when reached. The float charger will also increase the life too. Many of us use a BATTERY TENDER ?? by DELTRAN -see LINK below. They are available at Wally World -about $30 for the 6-volt unit and about $40 for the 12-volt unit. If you don't have AC power where the tractor is stored, then best to remove the battery and take it to a garage or barn where there is and plug in the Battery Tender there. Keep it charged until needed, then haul to the tractor site and connect it. Yeah, it will require a little extra work but better than ruining a battery by letting it get constantly discharged and then have to recharge it all the time. that is what runs a battery life- discharging and charging a lot. Make sure the battery is good first. An old battery won't sustain a charge under load and that is what you need. Your trusty local starter/alternator shop can bench test it as he has the right equipment to do so. Simply charging a battery means nothing if it won't sustain a charge under load. It also means nothing if the battery is 6 weeks old or 6 years old. Get it tested, if good, apply a full charge then connect the Battery tender to keep it ready.

Tim Daley(MI)
Battery Tender Jr.
 

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