3000 Diesel Engine serial number and production code

What does this tell me, stamped on the ENGINE
on right side,up front, next to the big bolt that holds front end on:

A
60L12
0L16b

lower down, just above the oil pan
*C256707*

The 0L16B matches the tag under the hood, for engine field box.

Could some one please decode for me?
Anything here tell me where built, when built and which injection pump.

Post all numbers on foil tag if readabile. If not below fuel shutoff valve to rear of starter s/n , build date,and model#. 3000s used mimic injection pumps which require oil to be changed at time of engine oil change.

0L16B is the build date
0 = 1970
L = November
16 = day of the month
B = shift bult

Engine was built Nov 16, 1970 on day shift

Don't know what 60L12 stands for

C256707 is the serial number, I believe the C stands for it being a 3000 engine.
I've read elsewhere that if it started with a B it would be a 2000 engine, but a maybe wrong about the letter.

0L16B is the build date
0 = 1970
L = November
16 = day of the month
B = shift bult

Engine was built Nov 16, 1970 on day shift

Don't know what 60L12 stands for

C256707 is the serial number, I believe the C stands for it being a 3000 engine.
I've read elsewhere that if it started with a B it would be a 2000 engine, but i maybe wrong about the letter.

I'm not sure what the first two lines are:

A
60L12

0L16b is the date code for when the engine was assembled, which was November 16, 1970 during the day shift.

*C256707* is the engine serial number. The leter at the beginning of the engine serial number denotes which series the engine was built for. The "C" means that it was built for the 3000 series.

The letter at the beginning of the tractor serial number, on the other hand, designates which plant it was assembled at.

(quoted from post at 11:25:47 11/30/17) I'm not sure what the first two lines are:

A
60L12

0L16b is the date code for when the engine was assembled, which was November 16, 1970 during the day shift.

*C256707* is the engine serial number. The leter at the beginning of the engine serial number denotes which series the engine was built for. The "C" means that it was built for the 3000 series.

The letter at the beginning of the tractor serial number, on the other hand, designates which plant it was assembled at.

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Sean I'm trying to learn something here.

I know on the tractors serial number stamped on the transmission that
C = US assembled
B = UK assembled
A = Belgium

In another thread you said "that" engines serial # C006460 meant it was for a 3000, I assumed the letter C told you that, if not what part of the engines serial # indicates it being a 3000 engine.
Actually until I read the other thread I didn't know there was anything to indicate what tractor a engine was for other than checking the cubic inches.

If you have a list that helps ID a engines original model destination please post it, I'd like to add that to my info list.

That would be very helpful if someone had a engine setting around but didn't now what model tractor it came from.


Thanks John

Good info this is what I think so far:

A = Antwerp, Belgium built engine?
60L12 = unknown, but what may be coded here? injection pump type?
OL16B = date code 1970, November 16, the B,day shift
C256707 serial Number C denotes a 3000

I do have the Simms pump
on the bell housing:
C1013C build code a 3000 AG tractor vertical exhaust diesel 8speed live pto
1C01B date code 1971 March 1 B,day shift
C297367 serial number. The C here denotes USA assembly?

The good thing is it all matches up with the tag under the hood- so I know my hood belongs to that tractor frame and the engine is original.

I note with the tag under the hood, the Engine, Transmission, Rear Axle, Hyd. Pump and Hyd.Lift numbers all seem to be date codes. And all those parts are dated up to a few months earlier than the tractor date. Which is logical.

Was it common to make an engine in Belgium and send to the US for assembly?

Sure would like to know what the 60L12 means...

John (Destroked),

Someone sent me a scanned set of the first 4 pages of a European Service manual that covered the identification information for "old" (pre-4/1/68) and "New" (4/1/68 & up) thousand series tractors, which included the engine serial number info.

Here are the "old" and "new" letter prefixes for the various series engine serial numbers:

2000 series:
old - L new - B

3000 series:
old - N new - C

4000 series:
old - P new - D

5000 series:
old - R new - E

There was starting tractor serial number info for the "new" models at the European assembly plants also. That is where I learned that the Basildon UK plant ran two parallel sets of serial numbers in different ranges, one range was for "export" and the other was for "domestic".

Approximate starting serial numbers for the "new" models on 4/1/68:

Antwerp:
2000 - A168001
3000 - A168007
4000 - A168003
5000 - A168005

Basildon Domestic:
2000 - B851199
3000 - B851094
4000 - B851097
5000 - B851100

Basildon Export:
2000 - B088752
3000 - B088762
4000 - B088828
5000 - B088773

I have also seen that since the '65-'74 thousand series they kept up with the first letter of the engine serial number matching the firs letter of the model number at least through the '80's and into the early '90's. So an engine serial number that starts with a D would be from a 4000, 4600, 4610 or 4630 series tractor depending on when it was made. An E would be 5000, 5600, 5610, 5630, etc. It was only the "old" (pre-4/1/68) tractors that had the letters in the engine serial numbers that didn't match the model series of the tractor.

I don't kmow much about the numbers.
But if you are trying to determine the displacement on it to get the right pump couldn't you just pull an injector and measure the stroke?

Thanks Sean, that's great info to have, thanks for sharing.
I printed a copy to put with my other info.

I see the L-B, N-C, P-D, R-E codes are the same as in my US manual, don't know why I never looked at that part before.

I had read about Basildon having two sets of numbers but didn't know why till now, 1 set for export, another set for domestic.

I've never seen a Antwerp numbered tractor in the US but not saying there isn't any.

Thanks again
John

(quoted from post at 16:40:52 11/30/17) Good info this is what I think so far:

A = Antwerp, Belgium built engine?
60L12 = unknown, but what may be coded here? injection pump type?
OL16B = date code 1970, November 16, the B,day shift
C256707 serial Number C denotes a 3000

I do have the Simms pump
on the bell housing:
C1013C build code a 3000 AG tractor vertical exhaust diesel 8speed live pto
1C01B date code 1971 March 1 B,day shift
C297367 serial number. The C here denotes USA assembly?

The good thing is it all matches up with the tag under the hood- so I know my hood belongs to that tractor frame and the engine is original.

I note with the tag under the hood, the Engine, Transmission, Rear Axle, Hyd. Pump and Hyd.Lift numbers all seem to be date codes. And all those parts are dated up to a few months earlier than the tractor date. Which is logical.

Was it common to make an engine in Belgium and send to the US for assembly?

Sure would like to know what the 60L12 means...

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Don't know what the A or 60L12 stand for.
Unlikely the A stands for Antwerp but your query brings up a good question.
Did each plant have full manufacturing facilities or where different components build at a separate locations and shipped to each plant.
If so does anyone know where Ford tractor engines where built.

(quoted from post at 21:32:42 11/30/17)
Don't know what the A or 60L12 stand for.
Unlikely the A stands for Antwerp but your query brings up a good question.
Did each plant have full manufacturing facilities or where different components build at a separate locations and shipped to each plant.
If so does anyone know where Ford tractor engines where built.

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I do remember some folks on here posting in the past that Ford did make most all components originally at all 3 plants, but that they decided it was more economical to make certain components all at one location and ship them to the other plants for final assembly. Might also have had to do with import tarriffs on whole machines vs. components in various countries at different times. I think that after a certain point all engines were being made in Basildon, even before they started calling them "Basildon engines". Hopefully someone with more knowledge will pipe in and enlighten us.

I no longer think the A means Antwerp. I was looking at a 2000 today, that was stamped "F".
Are there any books about the thousand series that explore the design and production.