Injector pump timing

I had the Perkins injector pump rebuilt on my Ford 4110 can't
get it running it seems like I'm having issues getting fuel to
the injectors . I've bled it several times starting at the fuel
inlet the pump body and then the injector can anyone out there
tell me what I'm doing wrong also are there timing marks on the
pump drive and driven gears that I need to be aware of. Thanks
 

First you should have a CAV injection pump, not Perkins.
The pin in the gear goes in the notch in the pump, it that simple.
There is a timing mark on the plate the pump bolts onto, the scribed line on the outer most pump mounting flange lines up with the zero on the plate.
Crack the inj lines loose at the inj, once you have fuel squirting out there tighten the lines. I have had the injectors air lock and used a small squirt of starting build to get the engine going.
 
We had this injector pump rebuilt and it is, indeed, a Perkins, as the Ford tractor is an industrial version, not the agricultural one.
Would the timing procedures you mentioned still apply to the Perkins?
 

There where two 4110 tractors, one was a ag model built from 82-83, the other was a industrial LGC model built from 68-75.

The industrial model is basically a 3000 with shorter front spindles, low profile rear tires and a 201 ci Ford engine from the 4000 series giving it more hp than a standard 3000 that had a Ford 175 ci engine.

Some 3000's used the inline Sims pump while other years used a CAV rotary pump, All 201 engines used the CAV pump to my knowledge.
Many Perkins engines also used the CAV injection pump very similar to ones use on Fords
Some time in the 80's Ford changed some models to the Lucas rotary pump, my 6610 has one.

If your injection pump has the name Perkins on it I'd like to see a photo because I've never seen one, also if you have a Perkins engine in a 4110 I'd like to see that as well, because someone went to a lot of work swapping it onto a ford chassis.
 
The parts site actually lists 3 different 4110 model tractors, and they are all described as AG models, not Industrial models.

1. The 4110 LCG made from 1965-1974 is listed as an AG LCG tractor:

(4110) - 3 CYL AG LCG TRACTOR (1/65-12/74)

2. The later one that Destroked also mentioned is listed as an AG model, but it says it was made from 81-90, not 82-83, and it also lists Narrow, Narrow Orchard, Vineyard and Orchard variants also made from 81-90.

(4110) - 3 CYL AG TRACTOR ALL PURPOSE (1/81-2/90)
(4110N) - 3 CYL AG NARROW TRACTOR (12/81-2/90)
(4110NO) - 3 CYL NARROW ORCHARD TRACTOR (1/81-2/90)
(4110V) - 3 CYL VINEYARD TRACTOR (1/81-2/90)
(4110O) - 3 CYL ORCHARD TRACTOR (1/81-2/90)

3. It lists the earlier 4 cylinder 4000 Row Crop whose model number started with 4110 as "4110TR" is listed as an AG Row Crop model, just like it lists the 4030 as a light industrial and a 4040 as a heavy industrial.

(4110TR) - 4 CYL AG TRACTOR ROW CROP (1/63-12/64)

But none of the 4110 models are listed as an Industrial model.

Ford did use the term Industrial in the marketing for the 65-74 LCG tractor, but in the parts site it is listed as an AG model.

The 4 cylinder row crop 4000 would have had a Roosa Master injection pump, and the two later models would have had a CAV rotary pump. As Destroked said, none of them came from the factory with a Perkins pump.
 

Thanks Sean, I was getting my info from Tractor Data, the one 4110 is in their industrial section and apparently they have the build dates for the later model wrong.
The part about the inj pumps I knew from experience having worked with, around and on the -000 series tractors for over thirty years, before that it was -00 and -01 series and Dexta.
Dad bought his first 8N before I was born, I'm 62 and there's always been Fords on this fram. There where a couple other brands here during that time with the Fords but their gone now.
 
The CAV pump is master splined on the drive.
There is a "pin" in the drive gear & 3 bolts that hold it on.
Then there is a set of degree marks stamped into the engine block & a timing line on the inj. pump mounting flange.
The mark on the pump "usually" lines up w/ "O" degrees on the engine block.
The issue I see here is, NO FUEL.. regardless if the pump is out of time, it should still pump fuel, AS LONG AS ITS TURNING..
MAKE SURE the shut off lever is in the RUN position & the throttle is AT LEAST pulled half way to full..
I HAVE SEEN, folks forget about the 3 bolts in the drive gear.. so check that.
Good luck.
 

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