prevent flipping backwards??

2wheelgnnr · Oct 5, 2017

Im thinking I was told once that if you need a good pulling force and have a "prone to tip over Tractor" you hook up to the FRONT of the tractor. this way you dont flip over.....is that true.

pulling with strap hooked up to front of tractor going under the tractor back to whats behind being towed/unstuck.

I guess im getting to be an old timer as I cannot remember where I heard it/or who told it to me??????

2wheelgnnr · Oct 5, 2017

shoot...this was meant as a reply to the A FORD NO LESS...thread!!!!!!

Bern · Oct 5, 2017

I've always been told that the safest place to hook up is underneath the tractor just ahead of the rear axle. Since this is where the drawbar
is pinned, then it stands to reason that pulling from the drawbar would be safe.

JMOR · Oct 5, 2017

(quoted from post at 16:11:42 10/05/17)
shoot...this was meant as a reply to the A FORD NO LESS...thread!!!!!!

f you can get enough traction as that guy did with the strapped on logs, and you have enough power, you can flip it trying to go forward, even if hooked under the tractor (from rear) all the way to the radiator. As soon as up to point where chain contacts rear axle, it might as well be connected to the rear axle. Can't be made flip proof for all people, unless he connects to the front axle and pulls in reverse.

Ultradog MN · Oct 5, 2017

There have been several posts over the
years on the N board where guys were
terrified to pull anything with their
tractor. Some of them would only pull with
a chain hooked to the front end and run
under the tractor. I kinda feel sorry for
them. Partly because you know they don't
understand the geometry of it all and just
because they can't really use the tractor
as effectively as it could be used.
You try to tell them that these things
really aren't made to pull off the front
end and that you'd have to have your rears
very heavily ballasted to have a flip
problem or be ram rodding it awful hard
but they're not content with that.
And so it goes.
In today's litigious society the engineers
would have found a better place to pull
from if there was a better one than where
Bern says. Or they would have quit putting
drawbars on them completely.
By the way, using posts chained to the
tires like that IS an effective way to get
unstuck. I learned to do it as a kid. But
you have to BACK UP to do it safely. His
pickup was in the way so he tried to go
forward. Thus the flip.

Fordfarmer · Oct 5, 2017

He probably would have gotten out ok going forward, IF he wasn't also trying to pull the truck.

WGM · Oct 5, 2017

The surest way to keep tractors from flipping over backwards is to keep idiots off of them

cdmn · Oct 5, 2017

Henry Ford dealt with this by making the fenders stick way back, so the wheels lifted off the ground before it flipped. Having lost traction, it would drop back down. However, tying fence-posts to the wheels would do a lot to defeat this too. Maybe a pendulum on the clutch pedal would work, but some haywire could defeat that too.

The Ford idea disappeared when manufacture moved to Ireland and England. I presume they
trained their drivers. The long back fenders interfered with turning and pto drives.

The modern approach is roll-over bars, or full cabs.

Chris in SK · Oct 5, 2017

Pulling from the drawbar should be fine. I think most of those
flipping over backwards came from the days when tractors ran
on steel spade lug wheels the just didn't spin or from people
hooking a chain up to the top link pin instead of the drawbar
on their N.

wellmax99 · Oct 6, 2017

I think this picture shows a tractor that was designed to help stop the flipping backwards problem.
many roots rocks in the ground, the old drag plows did not have kick backs

so when you hung a root/rock the old tractor would keep digging in and flip over

so they designed these heavy fenders that stuck out back to help stop this problem
do not know if it helped of not, but this problem has been around for a long time,
very dangerous,

Dean · Oct 6, 2017

The worm drive, short wheelbase Fordsons were well known for rearing up and injuring or killing the operators.

Dean

BushogPapa · Oct 7, 2017

When using a chain on any marginal situation, you Face the tractor toward the load and run the chain under, to the forward end of the Drawbar...

You can hook to about any place on the tractor ( front, front axle, etc) and not fear turning it over..

Myself, if I have heavy logs to move, I will ALWAYS use the Drawbar set to full length, then use a long clevis to the chain/ Drawbar.. and NEVER any higher than the Drawbar...
You can still lift the front if not careful, but it takes a whole lot more to lift it than being hooked to the 3-Point...

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