Ford dual remote auto-kickout

I have some dual remote valves for a 57-64 4 cylinder Ford. Some of them have an automatic kickout when the cylinders reach their end. One has autokick 1 way and not the other way. Is it possible to add autokick to the side that doesnt kickout? I have 3 different types. One is an older model that looks like a 2x6 board stood on its side. It says WoosterBWDivision. One Is the flat pancake style (flat) and the other one is a sort of offset style valve, says FoMoCo. All are dual valves. I have one pancake style that doesnt have kickout in any position. Any input appreciated, thanks. Oh yea, what it the word for auto-kickout?

I believe you are refering to detented valves. They are great for continous flow uses like hydraulic motors.

They are called detented valves and the detent is made into the valves spool.
I have a couple of tractors with detented valves and a couple with non detented valves.
I like a detained valve for operating a round baler, when opening or closing the tail gate I can move the lever to the detent and be doing another operation (changing gears) while the tail gate continues to move, once the tail gate is fully open or closed the valve will pop back to center.
I prefer a non detected valve when using my trailed mower, I can make minor adjustments in it's trailing position easier. A couple of times I've had a detented valve catch in detent and swing the mower in or out to far.
I wonder if the valve you have with a detent on one side is pressure detented or if it is a float position.

The only valves I've seen with pressure detent on one side was on log splitters, the detented return would retract the splitter wedge while one picked up or repositioned the wood but with the other side spring centered one had to keep their hand on the valve control handle while splitting the wood.

In float position there's no pressure on the lines nor is it locked into position such as when the valve is centered, this allows whatever is attached to float up or down as needed.
Most valves with a detented float position are used for loader opps, this allows the bucket to follow the ground contours.

I'm curious why they only fit 57 to 64 4 cylinder Ford's? Other than later ones having minor handle interference with the quadrant all the valves from 55 to the 90s interchange as far as I know

Oh yea, they fit a lot of other models also up into the 7000 series, I think. I'm not up to snuff as I was when younger, more often as not I forget to center the valve. Some of my kinfolk ran one of our tractors for a while and they trashed the crank and camshaft gears by leaving it in detent. The pump is working and all that pressure is going to go somewhere.

Any of your valves for sale? I'm looking for a double valve for a 4000D 4 cyl. '62

Im going to sell the one that doesnt have any kickouts. Its the flat style. I will probably put it on ebay for $500 butitnow unless you want it for that. Thats what I paid for it.

I'm not sure what the flat style is. Could we exchange a picture? If it's what I'm looking for I would give $500.00.

I'll take a pic and send it to your email, mine should pop up with this post. Just send me an email and I can reply. I dont know how to send pics on here. I think one side of one valve has float. I used it on a round baler today and hooked one set of hoses to the twine wrapper. It would pressure one way but the other way it just stayed put. Anyone know about this?

try this

Ford started using that flat style valve in 1970.

Destroked 450,
That would have been of value to the flat deck models of that time. (4200,5200,7200)
I believe my 7000 row crop would have had that flat style.
Keith

My search shows the row crop models had a special sub plate that moved the valve back behind the raise in the platform and used the older style valve, but I recently purchased a flat style with remote linkage that came off of a later model 6700 row crop.
Replacing the linkage with standard handles will allow it to work on one of my 4000's

John

I just remember a hinged plate that was on the rear of the deck on my 73 7200. The remote valve was directly below it and had what appeared to be chain connector links on the spool rods to connect to the handle linkages. Could have sworn it was flat topped like the one pictured.

Either way brought back some memories.
Keith

I'm sure your right, I find it hard to believe they would have stayed with the old style remote on the row crops while changing everything else over to the flat style.

John

What about one of the valves having pressure one way, move it the other way no pressure? Would that be float?

(quoted from post at 20:22:18 09/28/17) What about one of the valves having pressure one way, move it the other way no pressure? Would that be float?

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That sounds more like it is in single action mode. Read the text on the top of the valve body about turning that screw all the way in for "normal acting" and all the way out for "single acting". "Normal acting" is for a dual action cylinder that takes pressure on one side to extend and the other side to retract. Single acting is for a cylinder that only uses pressure on one side for extending and relies on gravity for retracting.

riveroadrat,
Some valves can be set to control a single action cyl. That could be what you are seeing.
My valve on my 1964 4000 has one set each way.
HTH
Keith

My valve.

I'll try that,thanks.