861 color scheme question

Restoring a 861. Just want to check to see if I'm right about the sheet metal color scheme. Was the original color for the instrument panel and it's lower cowl gray or red? I always thought it was gray, but have seen some red. Which is correct? Thanks in advance.
 
I would have to go out and look to be sure at my 841S but I think the dash is red as is the flip up part of the hood and the rest of the sheet metal is gray. From what I can tell about my 841S it has never been painted other then the paint I put on the hood years ago
 
Google Ford 861 and click on images. Not saying any of them are correct, but you get an idea. Looks like dash and middle hood panel are red as is the grill frame. Everything else is grey.
 
If you would want to see what my 841S looks like which would be painted the same as your 861 let me know and I'll take a picture of it and then post it
 
I think the 'correct' answer may well depend on the year produced. I've been using a neighbor's '62 851, all original. It's Ford vermilion red on everything but the fenders and front grill.

I've also seen the hundred series with grey on the hoods. There may be other versions or differing details as well.
 
Are you sure that is not a 651 not an 851. A 651 should be pretty much all red but the 801 series has a gray hood with a red center which is the flip up for gas tank filling
 
Because it's raining, and the model number stamped on the clutch housing is rusty from years of battery acid leakage and hard to read, I went to tractordata and looked at the 651 and 851, and sure enough Old, you're right. The grill says it's a 651.
 
(quoted from post at 16:34:45 06/18/17) Because it's raining, and the model number stamped on the clutch housing is rusty from years of battery acid leakage and hard to read, I went to tractordata and looked at the 651 and 851, and sure enough Old, you're right. The grill says it's a 651.

If it is a 651, then it is the Workmaster. The sheet metal on the Workmaster is pretty much all red except for the grill. The red is not Vermillion. Vermillion's last year was 1957 model year. The correct red for the XX1s is "Orange Red". It is significantly more orange than vermillion. Be sure to use the later gray as well, not the medium gray. It has a slight yellow tint to it. Be sure you paint your starter and genny red. You don't want to look redneck, and if you do a good job of painting the red, and then put the black starter on, your work master will not start.
 
(quoted from post at 21:23:45 06/18/17) If it is a 651, then it is the Workmaster. The sheet metal on the Workmaster is pretty much all red except for the grill. The red is not Vermillion. Vermillion's last year was 1957 model year. The correct red for the XX1s is "Orange Red". It is significantly more orange than vermillion. Be sure to use the later gray as well, not the medium gray. It has a slight yellow tint to it. Be sure you paint your starter and genny red. You don't want to look redneck, and if you do a good job of painting the red, and then put the black starter on, your work master will not start.
Just goes to show there's a lot I don't know about Fords, though I do know the fenders (with "Ford" stamped in them) are gray, as is grill.

It's a borrowed tractor, kept from becoming "Yard Art" after the 74 yr old owner got a new 4wd Kubota for working in the woods for firewood. He said it was always hard to start, and sure enough, the starter and genny are black. I may have to correct that, with the correct orange/red, and see if it starts better. I've heard they're peculiar.

I'm not sure I'll get around to painting the whole thing, even though it needs it. I'm doing maintenance and making other small improvements in consideration of it's use, but I know the owner isn't interested in selling it, and he or his heirs will eventually want it back.
 
Thanks again for all the comments. It is definitely a 861, 1958 vintage. I was aware the hood center ,egg create grill and lower front panel were red just was unsure about the dash and lower dash cowl, because I've seen them both ways. I was also aware of the red/orange color.
 
Some pix of 871,early 61 vintage. Do NOT get why the double post of pix. Oh well... tractor is orig paint.
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John Smith has some good pictures of 601 and 801 tractors with their original color schemes on his "Identifying Old Ford Tractors" web page. Click on the link below and scroll about 2/3 of the way down the page:

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