Ford 641 Clutch Lever Linkage

chiflatin

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I just acquired a '57 or '58 641 Workmaster and to my dismay the clutch is not engaging.

When it is not running, the clutch pedal seems to catch and I am able to operate the clutch. Once the motor is running the pedal hits the floor and any attempt to get the lever to catch again results only in rattling and noise.

I pulled off the one of the pins in the linkage to try and isolate the issue and noticed that there's significant slop in the shaft that enters the tractor body and I can pull it out almost an inch as seen in the photo. Anyone have any idea what could be wrong?

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I would guess the fork has come loose from the
shaft, or has broken. Looks like you'll be splitting a
tractor. ..
 

I was worried I'd have it in pieces before I even got to use it.
So, split it open? Sounds like a lengthy, and expensive project... Any tips? :)


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As for how long it takes will be how much you know how to do and what tools you have. In my shop I could do it in 2 or 3 hours but I have 4 chain hoists and 3 on trolleys so splitting a tractor is pretty easy
 

I will give you two tips: First, search here and read. This topic is on the twice a month schedule and is covered extensively every time. Second: even if you decide to not follow most advise given, use the HoboNC trailer jack splitting stand for safety's sake. It is not really difficult, just time.
 

Great, thanks!

I found a couple links so far of tutorials including this one for splitting a 800 series tractor to replace clutch stuff.

http://www.ytmag.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=ford&th=455971

Although I love a good project I will just have to sell it if it's going to cost more than $300 in tools and parts to fix and more than a couple weekends of cautious disassembly. I need a working tractor more than I need another project.

Either way, I'll order the "Ford Shop Manual Series F0-20" many people have mentioned in previous threads, and consider which joists/jacks options I can manage for supporting and moving.

I do have a garage to perform this task in, if needed.
 

Why would you need $300 worth of tools?
You don't have any tools?
You need some tools if you have a tractor. Got to change oil some time and grease it often.
 
(quoted from post at 16:05:21 04/30/17)
Why would you need $300 worth of tools?
You don't have any tools?
You need some tools if you have a tractor. Got to change oil some time and grease it often.

Thanks for your comment, I know it's not easy to advise someone like me who doesn't have any idea what they are doing and with a limited budget.

I have a few basic hand tools. I'm not running a repair shop so I'm guessing I'll need to buy some specific tools I currently don't have in order to split a tractor; rolling floor jack (mine do not roll) and from what I've been seeing maybe an engine lift. Any general maintenance tools wouldn't count toward my repair costs.
 


"tools I currently don't have in order to split a tractor; rolling floor jack maybe an engine lift."

Oh well, I tried.
 
(quoted from post at 19:09:31 04/29/17)
I will give you two tips: First, search here and read. This topic is on the twice a month schedule and is covered extensively every time. Second: even if you decide to not follow most advise given, use the HoboNC trailer jack splitting stand for safety's sake. It is not really difficult, just time.


I hear you showcrop. I did see that HoboNC trailer jack splitting stand you talk about, pretty slick! However, I'll have keep looking for the cheaper and more crude method this first time!
 
(quoted from post at 18:09:33 04/30/17)
(quoted from post at 19:09:31 04/29/17)
I will give you two tips: First, search here and read. This topic is on the twice a month schedule and is covered extensively every time. Second: even if you decide to not follow most advise given, use the HoboNC trailer jack splitting stand for safety's sake. It is not really difficult, just time.


I hear you showcrop. I did see that HoboNC trailer jack splitting stand you talk about, pretty slick! However, I'll have keep looking for the cheaper and more crude method this first time!

Good luck finding something cheaper than a trailer jack!! all you will need is a bottle jack along with the trailer jack!!
 
Good luck finding something cheaper than a trailer jack!! all you will need is a bottle jack along with the trailer jack!!

Oh! The thing I saw looked like a whole welded up jig for pulling apart tractors at light speed. You're talking about that jack that holds up the front of a trailer with that adjustable height wheel. I always thought those were permanently built into trailers. (I've clearly never own a trailer.)

I looked them up and they cost only $30 - $40. That's precisely what I'm looking for to get started!
 
(quoted from post at 21:15:31 05/01/17)
Good luck finding something cheaper than a trailer jack!! all you will need is a bottle jack along with the trailer jack!!

Oh! The thing I saw looked like a whole welded up jig for pulling apart tractors at light speed. You're talking about that jack that holds up the front of a trailer with that adjustable height wheel. I always thought those were permanently built into trailers. (I've clearly never own a trailer.)

I looked them up and they cost only $30 - $40. That's precisely what I'm looking for to get started!

Notice in this pix he drove wood blocks tween the axle and axle support. I cut wood wedges myself you will need to block it are it may tip over.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/Jim.UT/850ClutchJob/850split52.jpg
 
(quoted from post at 03:35:28 04/30/17) As for how long it takes will be how much you know how to do and what tools you have. In my shop I could do it in 2 or 3 hours but I have 4 chain hoists and 3 on trolleys so splitting a tractor is pretty easy

That's a mighty bold statement for a man that claims to be on total disability. I doubt there are many men in good health and far more mechanically incline with tools you only dream of owning that could even come close to 2/3 hr to do that job. I recommend he haul it to you house it could not run much more than $40/60 dollars for you to repair it. Of course bring cash we don't want you to lose your disability check... :WINK:

You don't impress anyone but yourself...
 

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