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Jubilee starter. Rebuild or replace??

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Marty Pinion

04-21-2017 08:01:17




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Not sure but I think it's a 53 Jubilee. Starter sounds like the bearings are giving up and the bendix is not engaging.

My questions are this:

Starter #?

Supplier?

Ballpark costs?

Rebuild v/s Replace?

If rebuild then who?

Thanks




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Ramrod

04-24-2017 11:52:11




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 Re: Jubilee starter. Rebuild or replace?? in reply to Marty Pinion, 04-21-2017 08:01:17  
Yep, rebuild the original. Find a good auto electric shop and ask him to clean it well and restore it. Also switch to 12v if necessary.



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Tall T

04-23-2017 20:25:26




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 Re: Jubilee starter. Rebuild or replace?? in reply to Marty Pinion, 04-21-2017 08:01:17  
That sounds like a good "old school" deal indeed!

I'm wondering that if they had to replace your armature would it still be only $65.

But anyway, the main thing is that you get your original starter back and spare time to work on other things. :)



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William Fissell

04-23-2017 20:04:15




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 Re: Jubilee starter. Rebuild or replace?? in reply to Marty Pinion, 04-21-2017 08:01:17  
I have never not rebuilt a starter. Local auto ignition place here in nashville took my locked up no good 861 starter and amde it new for $65.00



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Tall T

04-22-2017 22:28:01




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 Re: Jubilee starter. Rebuild or replace?? in reply to Marty Pinion, 04-21-2017 08:01:17  
Through a lot of years and 50's starters, mostly GM I've never had one that a new Bendix and brushes and a minor clean up and overhaul wouldn't cure.
Whenever I service them I write the year on them with those last forever paint pens. Bearings of that era were SAE sizing so easy to find. I use 80W90 in an oil can for bearing and bushing cups.

Clean the field poles with steel wool being careful not to fray the fabric wrap on wiring.

Use the bendix shaft in a spinning chuck and emery paper wrapped around a file or flat bar to square up the armature surface if it needs it.

I've always re-cut the stuff between the commutator bars with the back corner of a razor knife blade, or guitar makers fret saw blade. Some say it isn't necessary and maybe so.

I test the commutator bars with two probes and a household electric light plugged into the wall -- an idea that I got from Popular Mechanics or something. So when touching two side by side commutator bars with your probes, the light should not light up.

And yada, yada

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phil(va)

04-21-2017 19:27:22




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 Re: Jubilee starter. Rebuild or replace?? in reply to Marty Pinion, 04-21-2017 08:01:17  
Most towns of a certain size have a starter or electrical repair shop for trucks, tractors, industrial users, etc., who know how to test and repair these old tractor starters. They even keep a few parts on hand and some old starters also for parts if necessary. There's a good one in Richmond, VA: Auto manufacturers Inc., run by Jeff Duty. They will ship. BTW, I love your name; very apropos for a starter topic.

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Texasmark1

04-21-2017 13:42:35




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 Re: Jubilee starter. Rebuild or replace?? in reply to Marty Pinion, 04-21-2017 08:01:17  
I had TOs from that era and Fords after so I'm not your resident expert. But for general problems common to the beast: You say new starter and also bearings and the bendix won't engage. Why do you thing the bearings are shot?

Do you have to whack the case with a hammer when trying to start to get the armature to bounce off the case and start rolling over? Is the bendix and starter shaft it's on all gummed up? If so, clean and lube it. Checked your voltage at the starter during cranking? Check from the case to the stud where power comes in. I don't know which voltage that tractor runs but if 6v the minimum number is 5v, if 12v it's 10v between those points.

If you don't get it usually it's battery, cable, solenoid, or connection problems, not the starter. Course it could be time for new brushes.

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Dean

04-21-2017 09:16:49




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 Re: Jubilee starter. Rebuild or replace?? in reply to Marty Pinion, 04-21-2017 08:01:17  
If mine, I would rebuild it.

Modern aftermarket starters are of much lower quality that OEM designs.

Dean



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old

04-21-2017 09:15:49




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 Re: Jubilee starter. Rebuild or replace?? in reply to Marty Pinion, 04-21-2017 08:01:17  
This site sells starters so this is a good place to start. Or if you check the yellow pages good chance you will find an alternator/starter rebuild place in your area. Or ask at an auto parts store there likely to know of a place. Plus some auto parts stores can get you starters. I know my local O'Reilly's can get them



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Grandpa love

04-21-2017 14:58:31




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 Re: Jubilee starter. Rebuild or replace?? in reply to old, 04-21-2017 09:15:49  
My O'Rileys can get em too. Got number out of stiener catalog. Had to give them the " replaces" number. About 1/2 catalog price.



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old

04-21-2017 15:16:14




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 Re: Jubilee starter. Rebuild or replace?? in reply to Grandpa love, 04-21-2017 14:58:31  
Ah but do you have your O'Reilly's train like I do?? I have been using this O'Reilly's for almost 37 years and many have learned that I come in for the odd and hard stuff to find. No one has worked there as long as I have been coming in. The manager has even had a good talking to, to a few of the workers when they said something like hey this is an auto parts tore not a tractor parts place and well that guy does not work there now and even had to tell me he was sorry

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