Ford 8N

majikfish · Jan 31, 2017

I found a Ford 8N today. A 1952. Cosmetically it was immaculate. Couple of things. The hydraulics were very sluggish. It was smoking some yet it had very high oil pressure. The seller claimed it had been rebuilt head to toe. The belt was slipping and the clutch pedal scraped the sideboard. Also even at full throttle in every gear it seemed to run much slower than any other 8N I've ever driven.

Are there any things other than bad rings that would cause a tractor to smoke?

Any other thoughts based on my details? I'm thinking it's a spray paint restoration.

Sorry I don't know how to delete the yellow tractor photo

majikfish · Jan 31, 2017

(quoted from post at 18:17:20 01/31/17) I found a Ford 8N today. A 1952. Cosmetically it was immaculate. Couple of things. The hydraulics were very sluggish. It was smoking some yet it had very high oil pressure. The seller claimed it had been rebuilt head to toe. The belt was slipping and the clutch pedal scraped the sideboard. Also even at full throttle in every gear it seemed to run much slower than any other 8N I've ever driven.

Are there any things other than bad rings that would cause a tractor to smoke?

Any other thoughts based on my details? I'm thinking it's a spray paint restoration.

Sorry I don't know how to delete the yellow tractor photo

Sean in PA · Jan 31, 2017

Also even at full throttle in every gear it seemed to run much slower than any other 8N I've ever driven.

Might it have an auxiliary transmission like a Sherman or a Howard and be in the low range?

Are there any things other than bad rings that would cause a tractor to smoke?

What color was the smoke? White smoke would be coolant leaking into the combustion chamber, probably cause by a blown head gasket. Black smoke could be from running too rich. Blue smoke is oil smoke, which can be caused by oil getting past the rings as you said, and on an overhead valve engine leaking valve guides can cause oil smoke as well, but on a flathead like the N has I don't think so.

Ultradog MN · Jan 31, 2017

Not an answer to your questions but...
Skip the Ns and look for a Hundred Series or Thousand Series Ford.

Hobo,NC · Jan 31, 2017

Are skip the Ford board and run to the 9N,2N,8N board and get info on how to dope it up and hope for the best. They will talk him into it NO DOUBT.

I have been at this for a long time early on in my first few years I found out if it leaves smoking it will come back smoking you can bank on it.

I'm thinking it's a Rattle can restoration.

showcrop · Feb 1, 2017

A compression tester is not lot of money and is a big help in assessing the engine's condition.

majikfish · Feb 1, 2017

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Also even at full throttle in every gear it seemed to run much slower than any other 8N I've ever driven.

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Might it have an auxiliary transmission like a Sherman or a Howard and be in the low range?

What would I look for if that is the case?

Are there any things other than bad rings that would cause a tractor to smoke?

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What color was the smoke? White smoke would be coolant leaking into the combustion chamber, probably cause by a blown head gasket. Black smoke could be from running too rich. Blue smoke is oil smoke, which can be caused by oil getting past the rings as you said, and on an overhead valve engine leaking valve guides can cause oil smoke as well, but on a flathead like the N has I don't think so.

Sean in PA · Feb 1, 2017

Might it have an auxiliary transmission like a Sherman or a Howard and be in the low range?

What would I look for if that is the case?

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A Sherman auxiliary transmission would have an extra handle on the left side of the transmission housing up near the front of the transmission by the steering arm. A Howard would have the handle on the right side of the rear axle center housing.

souNdguy · Feb 1, 2017

Ditto what UD said. upgrade to a hundred series plus.

Tim PloughNman Daley RIP · Feb 3, 2017

First, I'd concur with the others about upgrading to a Hundred Series (600 or 800) or even a Thousand Series (2000 or 3000)as they were much better tractors all in all. You need to evaluate your needs too. What are your intentions? A working model or a restoration model? If a workhorse, what will the uses be? If mowing grass, bush hogging, plowing, discing, planting, back blading, et al on small acreage, say 10-20 acres, then an N-Series is fine. A Hundred Series (860) would be my choice even for that with live PTO/hydraulics and 5-speed. I'd stay away from later models with Select-O-Speeds though. Thousand Series is better with power steering too. Second consideration is the price. What is the seller asking for his smoking 8N? It will need an engine overhaul, hydraulic overhaul, and possibly electrical overhaul. You can expect to shell out a few thousand dollars for all of those issues. So, unless you are going to restore the 8N for a collectable showpiece, or just want an N-Series, and can get it for $1200 or so, I'd think going Hundred or Thousand series.

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