FoMoCo Engine in Barge

twi5ted · Jan 20, 2017

Hi all,
Just from searching around I've found this is a place where people really know their engines.
I've bought a Dutch Barge and it has an old Ford 145hp engine in it (I know this from the barge spec). I know more or less nothing about the engine and I'm hoping that you may be able to help me. It has the code D6015BA on the block. The block being one of the only major parts still remaining. The boat was converted from sail to power in 1954 so it obviously can't be an engine newer than then. It has a PRM-Newage 302D2.5 marine transmission which may help.
Thank you very much,

Tom

twi5ted · Jan 20, 2017

This is a link to some photos: https://goo.gl/photos/8BK2WUDvxNB3Y1c67

Ultradog MN · Jan 20, 2017

Google turned up very little for D6015BA,
Bing turned up several hits.
Several posts about a Ford 302 V8.
Click here

twi5ted · Jan 20, 2017

For some reason I've just completely disregarded Bing, thanks very much.

twi5ted · Jan 20, 2017

(quoted from post at 14:02:25 01/20/17) Google turned up very little for D6015BA,
Bing turned up several hits.
Several posts about a Ford 302 V8.
Click here

Just after looking through a few of these it seems that the engine currently in the barge wasn't the original. Well I'm already learning.

Sean in PA · Jan 20, 2017

Those hits on Bing all seem to have additional letters and numbers at the beginning, either before or after the B, or both, so that's why Google doesn't show them near the top of their hit list.

If it is truly from 1954, it is most likely one that was used in cars or trucks if it's producing 145hp.

What is the cylinder configuration (in-line 4, 6 or 8, or V-8 or V-12, etc.)? Can you tell if it's a flathead or if it has overhead valves?

Can you post some pictures?

Bern · Jan 20, 2017

Are you certain there are no other letters or numbers before the 6015, other than the "D"? 6015 is a common Ford block casting number, but it's usually preceded by 4 other characters, such as C5NN if it's in a Ford 5000 tractor.

Sean in PA · Jan 20, 2017

C5NN was used at the beginning of the casting numbers for the 2000, 3000 and 4000 models as well. C5 means the casting was made in 1965. The first character, C in this case, designates the decade. A was the 1940's, B was the 1950's, C was the 1960,s and so on. The second character was the individual year within the decade, so C5 is 1965. The third character tells what it was designed for, and N means the tractor division. The fourth character tells who designed it, and again, N means the tractor division.

Note that they didn't standardize on that across the whole company until somewhere around 1960 or so, with the tractor division being one of the last to follow suit. That's why engines from the NAA and hundred series start with EAF or even no letters at all, and the first tractor engine casting codes that followed the corporate standard were made in 1959, which all started with B9NN.

Back to the original poster - There may be some additional characters off to the left of the casting code you originally posted, with a large gap separating them from the rest.

twi5ted · Jan 20, 2017

https://goo.gl/photos/8BK2WUDvxNB3Y1c67 There you are.

RodinNS · Jan 20, 2017

It's probably a 2700 series engine variant although I'm not familiar with them enough to say that decisively. It's certainly not a Basildon
engine.

Rod

Destroked 450 · Jan 20, 2017

Can't connect to the link

twi5ted · Jan 20, 2017

Try this one: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/g857uko9reuj1ty/Avontuur%20Engine.zip?dl=0

Sean in PA · Jan 20, 2017

Metal tag says:

NEWAGE PRM COVENTRY
0607942G00953
302D2.5
MADE IN ENGLAND

None of the pictures show the space to the left of the D6015AB, so there may be some other characters off to the left? If it follows the standard casting number system, and there are additional characters to the left, the D before the 6015 means that it was designed by the "Overseas Product Engineering" Division, which agrees with the metal tags saying it was made at the Coventry plant.

It looks like an overhead valve in-line 6 cylinder.

twi5ted · Jan 20, 2017

(quoted from post at 18:53:37 01/20/17) Metal tag says:

NEWAGE PRM COVENTRY
0607942G00953
302D2.5
MADE IN ENGLAND

None of the pictures show the space to the left of the D6015AB, so there may be some other characters off to the left? If it follows the standard casting number system, and there are additional characters to the left, the D before the 6015 means that it was designed by the "Overseas Product Engineering" Division, which agrees with the metal tags saying it was made at the Coventry plant.

It looks like an overhead valve in-line 6 cylinder.

Thanks for that, I believe that tag is from the transmission off to the right of the engine. I was looking at PRM Newage and they specialise in marine transmissions, (http://www.prm-newage.com/media/File/302%20man.pdf)
As for the engine, when I'm next there I'll make sure to have a look at the number/letter code before it. (I do distinctly remember there not being one but I'll make sure to check). The engine as you can see is quite bare so I'll get what I can.

cdmn · Jan 20, 2017

I'd look for the serial number on the other side, close to the front and just below the head gasket.

Majorman · Jan 21, 2017

Looks like a late 1960's Ford 2703 or 2704 six cylinder from those pictures. Does the injection pump bolt straight onto the timing cover?

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