801 tractor

Would you guys educate me about the 800 series of tractors. I found an 801 that might be a good fit for my operation, but I know very little about Ford tractors.
It would be used on a hay rake, maybe grind some feed, rotary mower mowing water ways etc.
 

First - there are *00 series tractors and there are *01 series tractors. An 801 is not an 800 series tractor! That said they are both very similar with subtle improvements to the *01 series.

Now then, there are different 801 models. 801 is the series. *01s, unlike the *00s can for instance be diesel powered. they can also have a powershift transmission called a Select-O-Speed.

So - for us to help you much - we need to know which 801 you're talking about. Here are a few possibilities, but not exhaustive by any means:

841 - 4 speed transmission w/transmission PTO
851 - 5 speed transmission w/transmission PTO
861 - 5 speed transmission w/live PTO via 2 stage clutch, (preferred by many)
871 - 10 speed Select-O-Speed transmission w/independent PTO
881 - 10 speed Select-O-Speed transmission w/independent dual speed 540/1000/ground speed PTO (these latter two are preferred by some of us who disagree with the masses :lol: )

So which one are we talking about here?
 
The 800 Series tractor was first produced in late 1954 and introduced in 1955 and ran through 1957 when the 801 series was introduced and ran through 1962. Check the link below for more information about your tractor. It is a very good source of info. Assuming it is a general purpose tractor I am sure that an 801 will do what you want. Hopefully it has live PTO.
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if you are going to spend your money be sure to get a tractor with live pto,

you will be a much happier camper if you are going to do much rotary cutting or pto work,
 
jim,.
also wanted to mention, I think these 861 series tractors are one of the best looking tractors ever made when painted in their bright colors.
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On the left hand side if you lay your right hand on the clutch pedal and your left hand on the radius rod behind the front tire and look down you should see to horizontal bolt holes. On the flat spot above those hole will be the model number and serial number and will sort of look like this but may have diamonds before and after
841S
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In this case that is an 841S which is a 4 speed transmission wit ha Sherman combo aux non live PTO
 
I have a 1801 which is a 801 industrial with a back hoe and front loader. It is a Killer tractor. A work horse.

I got the tractor for $400 in 1990 as it had four 8-10" diameter Elm trees growing up in it. I got it started after I cut out the trees, running on three of four cylinders. Then we found out the clutch was out. Using the Hydraulics, we crabbed it out to the road to tow it home.

We rebuilt the head, and fixed the two stage clutch (which there is no PTO on the tractor). In the process we found out it was a Select-o-speed that had been changed to a 5spd with live PTO.

We figured we would get it running and the next winter we would overhaul it. That was 16 years ago.

There is a bit of blow-by, but the old gal has plenty of raw power. She will start at 5 below F no problem.

What a great tractor, series.

By the way, I am a F-series Farmall guy, and have a 8N and To-20. The 1801 is by far my favorite and most used. The loader is priceless.
 
The 801 powermaster should meet your needs. Plenty of
power. The 861 model would be good for mowing. Power steering is a plus if it has it. You can won't likely get PS on the 800

Kirk
 

Nice tractor! Have one just like that complete with pie weights and front wheel weight, but additionally it's a diesel with power steering. Only objection is road gear is slow.
 

Always look forward to your eloquent delineation, Larry. Didn't realize I was in disagreement with the masses. Someone once said the masses
are the asses.
 
(quoted from post at 21:39:10 01/14/17) if you are going to spend your money be sure to get a tractor with live pto,

you will be a much happier camper if you are going to do much rotary cutting or pto work,

I agree, except that independent PTO would be even better.
 
Slow road speed,
When I was a kid we farmed with a neighbor that had one of these gas 861's great tractor,
But I do remember when traveling on the road with this tractor it had a slow road speed, always wonder why, all other aspects of the tractor were good, once you learned how to shift the transmission
Most tractors were shifted side to side, this one with 5 speed was shifted up down then front to rear, just took a short period for a young country boy to learn

I believe his pulled 3x14" plows,
Good tractor, I liked it, always thought it looked good too!
 
Slow road speed,
When I was a kid we farmed with a neighbor that had one of these gas 861's great tractor,
But I do remember when traveling on the road with this tractor it had a slow road speed, always wonder why, all other aspects of the tractor were good, once you learned how to shift the transmission
Most tractors were shifted side to side, this one with 5 speed was shifted up down then front to rear, just took a short period for a young country boy to learn

I believe his pulled 3x14" plows,
Good tractor, I liked it, always thought it looked good too!
 
(quoted from post at 11:29:17 01/15/17) Slow road speed,

That's part of why some of us like the SOS 10 speed. Really slow working speeds and a road gear that was as fast as any of the day, save maybe a 4 speed with a Sherman auxiliary.

Good tractor, I liked it, always thought it looked good too!

The other draw back to the 851 & 861 was that if your foot slipped off the clutch pedal you were going to get a hard bang in the shin. Some of those wet mornings mowing hay, that was pretty easy to do! I didn't like these nearly as well as the SOS 871 and 881. I agree, though, They were great looking tractors.
 
I visited with the owner today, it is in a shed but the door is frozen shut, it does not have power steering, it does not have live PTO. He says it starts good
runs good, has new rear rims one rear tire is almost new the other one has weather cracks, oh and they are 13.6 x 28 tires. Three point works okay, 5 spd tranny.
It is advertised at 2450 obo.
He will call me when he can get the door on the shed open. Power steering would be nice but I can get along without, I just wish it had live PTO.
Do you guys think that not having live PTO is a necessity ?
 
I added to Larry's post about the different models but it didn't show up by itself so I will post this.
I talked with the owner today, its in a shed but the door is froze shut. From what he tells me it must be an 851, no power steering, no LPTO, 5 spd tranny,
he says the 3 pt works good, starts good runs good, 13.6 x 28 rear tires one is pretty new the other one has weather cracks. The rear rims are in good condition.
He is asking 2450.00 OBO.

I just wish it had LPTO !
Thanks for all of your replies!!
 
Live PTO is not a necessity but it is very nice for your stated uses.
Tractor prices vary greatly by region so you probably have a
better idea on it's value in your area than I do but that seems
like a "fair" asking price to me. In my area they don't usually
sell for that much unless they are in great shape or restored.

I bought a 3000 gas last year with 8 speed trans, live PTO,
power steering and usable tires for less than that.
Here it is when I bought it. Ran Ok but I rebuilt the carb.

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Got a bit more into it now.

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(quoted from post at 19:44:08 01/14/17) jim,.
also wanted to mention, I think these 861 series tractors are one of the best looking tractors ever made when painted in their bright colors.
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I agree that the 801 is one of the best looking tractors ever built. and the 901 looks just a little better.
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(quoted from post at 20:44:00 01/15/17) Here's my 801, I use it for grading and moving hay bales

That's not an 801! Or else if it is, it's been refitted with 800 series sheet metal.
 
At least the hood and doglegs are 801. Who on this board hasn't switch out some rotted fenders for some better ones even if that weren't the same model or year on working tractors.
Here's my ford 2000 (at least the back end and trans) hood and grill off a jub, engine 172 ind, gas tank off 800, floor boards off 55 800, 3pt arms off ferguson TO30, looks like hell but it works.

Kirk
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It could still an 861 with the clutch clevis in the other hole disabling the IPTO, but making the clutch height more comfortable. It would also prevent the Rev. from getting smacked in the shin.
 
hey... that competes in ugliness with my 850 hay moover! ;)

Reminds me.. I need to pull a front and fix a leak this evening. :)
 

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