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Hello everyone,

I am looking to upgrade tractors again and was just wondering the good, bad and the ugly on the 7810. Just mainly if it has any common costly issues and things I need to look for that could be an issue. I worked for a man that had a 7710 years ago and it was a good trouble free tractor.

This one is a 1988 model so it is not the (S).I don't have much information on the tractor yet debating if I want to make the trip (about 3 hours away)and your input can help me make that decision. Guy inherited it so he does not know much about it. Its a FORD so its got to be good right?

Thanks in advance.
 

7810 is a six cylinder version of the 7610, it's a standard profile tractor, good tractor but with the lower sheet metal and lower setting cab everything is packed in tight making them hard to work on.
I have a 6610 with cab, had to take the hood off just to change the thermostat and sending unit.
7910 is the six cylinder version of the 7710 roll crop tractor, cab and sheet metal set about six inches higher making them much easier to work on.
Roll crop models also have a second fuel tank up front for more fuel capacity.
 
I don't know Sunbeam if it is or not. I know the two tractors are supposed to be similar in many ways according to tractordata.com. It had less information on the 7810. Unfortunately I don't know anyone around the area that has one and our local Ford dealer is long gone...
 
We had a 7810 back in the early 90's. It was an English tractor imported to the US. The tractor engine performed flawlessly, even when we traded it with 5??? Hours. The a/c never worked well, this was one of the reasons for trading. Nathan
 

iirc its a 7610 with a 6 cyl, produced mainly for the Italian market where turbos were not popular. And would be a bit longer. The derated 6 cyl should run forever and ever.. might burn a bit more fuel though. Otherwise should be a really good tractor.
 
The 7810 is a straddle tractor which uses the 7610 chassis fitted with the 401 engine. It was very popular in the UK and I guess somewhat in Europe. They were intended to be sold as a cheaper, stripped down tractor with a 6 cylinder (compared to the 7710/7910) although there are no doubt many out there that are fully featured. As has been mentioned... working on them is a pain in the d**k because everything is shoehorned into too small of a space. Unless it's a 2wd open station it'll be miserable to work on.
If it was me I'd look for an 8210 instead. You'll get generally better features in a row crop chassis with a bit more power, bigger wheels and easier to work on... I think you'll find that the air and cooling capacities are generally better on the row crop models too... There are examples of 8210's out there running 200 engine hp... How well they live I don't know, but from the video I've see I would say they're definitely doing it.

Rod
 
(quoted from post at 11:21:12 01/11/17)
iirc its a 7610 with a 6 cyl, produced mainly for the Italian market where turbos were not popular. And would be a bit longer. The derated 6 cyl should run forever and ever.. might burn a bit more fuel though. Otherwise should be a really good tractor.
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ok,it was the 7910.. sold very well in the french market where a light 6 was preferred over a turbo 4..

the 7810 was a big seller in uk taking up to 25% of the sales.. circa march 88 onwards. (had to mill the back of the engine and relocate the oil pump?? per the book.)
 
They did something with the oil pump but I'm not sure what exactly. Seems to me that in it's modern location at the front of the 401 it would
not clear the front bolster...

Rod
 
FWIW, according to the NH parts book the 7910 uses a TW-style front pump, and the 7810 uses a 9700-style cam driven pump. Regardless of whether or not the parts book is in error here, any Basildon built Ford engine (prior to the Genesis series) that does not use the TW-style crank driven pump will use the older style cam driven pump. That would be my preference anyway, since the crank driven pump is junk in my opinion. Furthermore, by machining the 6-cylinder blocks for the cam driven pump, this allowed Ford to sell a parts replacement block for earlier tractors, because when the TW series first came out, the blocks were not machined for a cam driven pump.
 
Thanks for all the replies. I may hold off going any further with this tractor. I do work on the majority of my equipment and I am getting to the point I don't care to wrestle with repairing something and since the current owner doesn't have any information on it guess I'm a little gun shy. I would also like to have a front end loader. That may open up another can of worms. Guess I will keep looking.

Thanks again!!!
 
Don't take us the wrong way... they are good tractors. They're just miserable to work on by comparison with the row crop chassis. I'd probably still buy one but the price would have to be right... The big difference with the row crop is that they are 6" longer in the nose and about a foot taller. That makes a huge difference when you're wrenching on it. You can get at a lot of stuff under the cab a lot easier on the row crop... and simple things like bleeding injectors, changing alternators, water pumps and cleaning rads are a LOT easier on the 77/79/82 chassis. The rest of the tractor is otherwise the same in their respective power classes.

Rod
 
Oh no worries. I totally get what you all are saying I just think that I am going to hold out on this one for now. I appreciate all the replies. Think I will look for one a little closer to me and hopefully with a loader as well. I really appreciate all the replies. I enjoy learning more about different models.

Thanks again everyone and this great forum!
 
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